(((honda Vtec Vs Bmw)))
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S2000 is built for the track? No way chief. 325i is more for "track" than an S2000. S2000 is a great little car no doubt. Has no chance running against a 325i at Nurburing![[thumb]](/images/smilies/icon_smile_thumb.gif "Thumbs Up [thumb]"){kind=icon}
Ok lets keep this simple, there is no way an asian car (i dont care if its a NSX) is as well built as a Bimmer. Like everyone said asian cars are built for they're MPG. If the asians wanted all their cars to be sports cars they would have made them all RWD or AWD. I'm tired of hearing all this sh** about a rice burner doing tens at the track, but you have to remember, thats with turbos and NOS. Take a naturally aspirated bmw against another NA asian car bone stock and see who wins. Cut the sh** with this Vtech garbage and move on with your life.
Happy Motoring.
Happy Motoring.
epj3 said:
Actually I have to disagree. You ever see the new Acura's with the 3.0 liter engine? It has more power (atleast -- more power at a PEAK) than bmw's 3.0 literQUOTE]
yes thats what i was thinking EPJ3 but i didnt want to cause an argument, lets put it one way beamers r awesome motors!!! every car has its good things so lets not say vtec engines are a load of garbage because everyone knows they atleast have some good points about them
yes thats what i was thinking EPJ3 but i didnt want to cause an argument, lets put it one way beamers r awesome motors!!! every car has its good things so lets not say vtec engines are a load of garbage because everyone knows they atleast have some good points about them
I really don't see why we have to debate this.... Hondas are a different class of car than a BMW. Hondas are meant to be commuter cars that can maybe have a little fun up in the higher rev ranges. BMWs are race bred driving machines... I don't see why it's so hard to draw that conclusion.
Hondas have vtec and that crap. So they make good power up high... so does my 3.2L Yamaha engine in my SHO. Big effing deal... Honda knows how to make a 4 cylinder engine... good for them... they've been doing it for decades. They better know how to make one.
I'm not going to get into it... honda makes a fine product. The cars run forever and then some. I tore apart my step mother's sister's Accord and man that thing if it was any other car would've been dead. However the Honda name is tarnished by people thinking VTEC is the holy grail of engine technology. It's not, get over it.
Hondas have vtec and that crap. So they make good power up high... so does my 3.2L Yamaha engine in my SHO. Big effing deal... Honda knows how to make a 4 cylinder engine... good for them... they've been doing it for decades. They better know how to make one.
I'm not going to get into it... honda makes a fine product. The cars run forever and then some. I tore apart my step mother's sister's Accord and man that thing if it was any other car would've been dead. However the Honda name is tarnished by people thinking VTEC is the holy grail of engine technology. It's not, get over it.
VtecTurbo said:
yea respect BMW!!! the m3 produces 100bhp per litre, not many cars do, once again respect!!! thats why i said repect to honda and bmw for making cars that produce 100bhp per litre because the honda b16a 1.6 litre vtec also produces 100bhp per litre knocking out 160bhp
thats why i said repect to honda and bmw for making cars that produce 100bhp per litre because the honda b16a 1.6 litre vtec also produces 100bhp per litre knocking out 160bhp
But as Frolf pointed out - is this HP only avail at high revs? (IE a Vtec engine). BMW's power band starts around 3000-3500 RPM's, and stays solid to 5500-6000 for most cars. Get in an M3, or any fairly modded BMW, and those numbers are even MUCH better.
The only asian import car I'd consider would be a Skyline, or an old Nismo 400. Too bad they don't sell those here, thats an expensive special order.. Neither can swing with an E46 M3 though.
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no the honda 1.6 vtec producing 160bhp is not forced induction, its n/a, ok its vtec but thats not forced induction, if your saying its producing 160bhp because its vtec then im sure like that the m3 has some kind of similar system as the vtec system, is it called a vanos system???, i think they call it the mtec system here, dnt ask me why lolz, ive been in my mates 2004 spec m3 and it has some kind of power band between 3000rpm to about 5500rpm maybe to 6000rpm, and oh yea they are fun cars
yes more or less, but thats the reason why i turbo'd mine because turbo goes real well with vtec, at 3000rpm the turbo comes in strong takin u up to the vtec power band and then you get another knock back in your seat when vtec comes in because you got twice the power, with normal cars the turbo starts giving up at about 5500rpm but with vtec turbos if the turbo starts giving up once you hit vtec the car wakes up and gets real aggressive
ive got a video of a 300bhp turbo'd civic, its a cool video, can anyone tell me how to put a video on here from your own computer???
ive got a video of a 300bhp turbo'd civic, its a cool video, can anyone tell me how to put a video on here from your own computer???
Vtec, you need to check the other video of the Hyundai Tyburon posted on this forum....over 600hp...........thats rice with attitude. Bolted on accesory 300+hp hondas are common place. Not knocking the speed.just the quality. Hell I can put a rocket engine on a wheel chair to make it fast. Look at the BIG picture. For the price, Hondas are good little cars...for the price....a BMW that costs 20k is going to be used and obviously on its last leg vs. a 20k Honda which is brand new. You get what you pay for.
hey tool fan, how u doin? no i got videos of 850bhp civic vtec turbo but i jus wanted to show you how a 300bhp civic is like, you need to see the revs shoot up as if the clutch is slipping, and the vtec sounds so awesome with forced induction and look how quik he gets throught the gears, tool fan tell me how to posyt a video from my computer on to here plz
I just wanna say that I never question Honda when it comes to their engines. Honda is an engine company first and a car company second. Honda is a great company that makes great engines and cars and they certainly know what they're doing. Take the Honda S2000 for instance...the first-generation version delivers 120 horses per liter. Granted it's a 4-cylinder motor (wheraes the M3 is a 6-cylinder), I don't see many car companies coming close to this number without forced induction.
But all of us here love BMW's not only for the power. BMW's handle and stop amazingly well and even though the S2K puts out 120 horses per liter, there is something special about BMW power. The sound, the feel, the whole experience...it's just second to none.
But all of us here love BMW's not only for the power. BMW's handle and stop amazingly well and even though the S2K puts out 120 horses per liter, there is something special about BMW power. The sound, the feel, the whole experience...it's just second to none.