David and Goliath!!!!!!

[Bryan330i]

Check out this link. It talks about 230 MPH, 800HP Indy car basics. It is from an intro to physics class.





http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/211.web.stuff/Langman/phys211-ec.htm

 

[jrt67ss350]

bmw046series, I call BS. There is no way that a 3.0 Z4 can run 220 mph with physics from this universe. It's just not possible, especially with a stock 3.0 6 cylinder, or even one "with a bunch of engine mods to squeeze out performance." Everyone knows there isn't a whole lot you can do as far as bolt on performance parts short of nitrous, a supercharger, or a turbo on the 3.0s because BMW has pretty much already squeezed all the possible power out of the engine as it comes from the factory. Plus, even if it were possible to run 220 mph in a Z4, there is no way you could spray the thing for the length of time it would take to reach that speed - you'd incinerate the engine. You tested the speed at a local airport - yeah right. No runway would be long enough for you to get your car up to 220 mph. Hell, the show Top Gear only got the Koenigsegg up to 174 mph (I think) on a runway when it's supposedly good for something like 244 mph - they ran out of room. And it's got 655 hp! The beloved Hartge 5.0L Z4 has a top speed around 180 mph, and it's got 400 hp. You're telling me that you are running a 40 mph faster top end with only 225 hp (350 if you spray it)??

News for you - you'd have to be insane to pay $49,000 for a used Z4 when you can walk right into your dealer and order a new one built to order for a thousand more. Give me a break. By the way, the Blue Book retail value on a 2003 Z4 3.0 6 speed with Sports and Premium package is $39,530.

Let's see pics of this Z4 of yours. By the way, you never countered my question about the 645 you claim you drive.

Bottom line - if you want to come on here and feed us a line of BS, that's your business, but don't expect me to believe it.

 

[Bryan330i]

I think you may need an airport for a Z4 at 220, I somehow don't think you would have real secure ground contact at that point.

 

[bmw046series]

O'Hare in Chicago has a 2.46 mile long runway; we tested it I even had it clocked by the sheriffs dept., 219. Every year in August they have a race and run at the Airport were people can take there cars and see how fast they can run them.

The runway is 13,000 feet, I got up to speed in a mile 1/2, 0-60 in 5.8 seconds estimate, and braking distance was about 700 feet.

Hartge's limit is 200 MPH; it's the same M series engine for all the cars, that they modify, that's without the electronic limiter.

I have every package on the car, $50,280 original invoice, I didn't pay that but that's the invoice.

A note to everyone, the Highway Institute forces every car into a limit that it can run at, 135 is not the limit of the 3.0, it’s the limit on the 2.5 liter, 155 is the electronic limit on the 3.0, and the true speed is 165.

The Z4 is 10 times more aerodynamic than the M3 or M5 though, I put caps on the fog lights, to reduce wind sheer also, the M3 is almost square compared to the Z4, although two different cars.

I bought it in Europe jrt67ss350 they’ve had them for about 3 months now I just got mine in December, I also own a dealership.

jrt67ss350 wanna race?

 

[Bryan330i]

The Z4 is 10 times more aerodynamic than the M3 or M5 though, I put caps on the fog lights, to reduce wind sheer also, the M3 is almost square compared to the Z4, although two different cars.

The Z4 is a nice car but you are digging yourself a hole bmw046series. 10x more aerodynamic? How so? Where would you get the downward force from? Where on the car sufficient for those speeds and to compensate for the bottom lift? Also, do you have a hard top, or did you do 220 with the top down?

 

[bmw046series]

I had the soft top up, the hard top came out in like Oct. for the Z4, I’d blow myself out if I had it down.

The Z4 was designed in a wind tunnel, it’s designed for higher wind speeds than normal, the M3 is a beautiful car but it doesn’t have the curves to it like the Z4 that holds the car in place because of that. We also added about 200 pounds to the car, with sand weight, the nitrous tanks, etc. You know the only reason it ran that fast at that second was because it was tweaked enough to run that fast, you probably couldn’t take it out right now and run it because clearly it’d have to be tweaked accordingly, and it’s at home.

When whoever said BMW’s are performing to the max, it’s not true, there is a lot more power in that engine then you think, it’s just they won’t let them really open them up, watch some of the video on Hartge’s site.

 

[Bryan330i]

You should just get this one. But it is $245,000.00 and only does 193 mph with a V12


Hamann Motorsport HM5/450 V12

Base Price, DM 245,000
Engine Type V12
Powertrain Layout front engine/rwd Displacement, cc 6062
Power(DIN)@rpm 441@5400
Torque lb-ft@rpm 465@4300
0-62 mph, sec 4.7
Top Speed, mph 193

 

[frolf]

The few times my immaturity gets the best of me...

dude thats not immaturity. sometimes i go looking for trouble, there is a circuit of freeways around minneapolis that usually draw out some rice on certain days. that and a lot of the kids at neighboring schools are rich and stupid, so they always want to race.




mullet: business in the front, party in the back.

 

[Ghost]

My money is on JRT67SS. At times I work out at O’Hare and other facilities around the airport and I’ve never heard of this. The only time anyone can be on an actual runway is when you have direct radio contact with the tower. Besides ORD is one of the busiest airports in the world when are they going to shut down part of it to let amateurs drive at outrageous speeds not to mention the insurance risks. I’ll buy London Bridge before I buy that story. If it is true give me dates and names I’ll research it and confirm or disprove this statement. If I am wrong I’m man enough to admit it, but until I get the facts it’s all just hearsay. I like this site because “most” people are truthful and are secure in themselves not to need their ego stroked by creating fantasies and thinking the people on this site are naïve enough to believe everything that is posted. So please, as Bryan suggested, “PUT THE SHOVEL DOWN!”

 

[MrElussive]

bmw046series, can you show us some pics of your 6-series, if you have any? Not calling your bluff or anything like that, I just wanna see what the final 6-series is going to look like on the inside.

 

[skandalous]

I'm just gonna jump in. I might not know much about cars, but I find it very very hard to believe your Z4 can run 220. You're full of it. My 325 can go about 130. Wanna race? Also, in you're profile it says you're a programmer. Why then didn't you put that you owned a dealership in there? Hell, if I ownded a dealership, I'd be proud as hell of it.

I add my vote that this guy's full of it.[slap]

 

[donmbmw]

Ok boys, lets play nice. Now no one says that absolute truth has to get in the way of a good story but lets not just make crap up. Hey My Harley...see what you started. It's all your fault!![slap] ..........................................[fake] [joke]

 

[bmw046series]

I mid as well come clean, you've all been apart of a Psychology study, I’m a psych student at University Wisconsin – Madison, we’re studying patients who pathology lie like alcoholism, drug abuse etc.

Over the Holiday break we have to develop a “story” and analysis the reaction the recipients responded too, I picked a subject and a site that I liked “BMW’s”, sorry to those hurt arguments, but it was more or less what the patient was saying and the overall art of “self invention” how you keep creating a deeper lie from the original, we’re suppose to have a report out in March, if I remember I’ll post a link for validity.

My dad owns a BMW dealership in Milwaukee though, their suppose to get a 645 in Mid-February, I’ll post some pics of the interior if they’ll let me, MSRP about $75,000.

http://psych.wisc.edu

 

[MyHarley]

 

[bmw046series]

Sorry, at least your responses were normal, I've conducted the same test with different form on other sites (I like the Internet as a research center because of being anonymous), and people got ticked off and started swearing because of what I said.

Honestly do you serious think a N²0 tank can increase the overall horsepower by 125 HP, first of all studies suggest Nitrous wrecks an engine because of the hot-cold compound, let alone increasing the pressure of the tanks and flowing more into the engine, bad bad.

Thank You! And be sure to keep driving the best vehicles ever made.

 

[MyHarley]

Where I come from, you get your a$$$$ whooped for lying...........now you've messed up my thread and my one and only accomplishment in racing.........somebody open up a can of whoop a$$$, I'll do it myself.............. [read]

 

[PhatBimmer]

Wow its like hunting down a rhino, at first it fights then when I guess you've shot it with like 30 Monster tranquilizer darts or w/e they use, it starts to waddle to the left and right and then finally it just sleeps. I guess thats what you all did. BTW if it is true about that pyschomology thingy I still don't belive you. In any case bye

P.S. I don't know anything about hunting a rhyno

 

[bmw046series]

It's college research, it's to find out what's wrong with the crack-pots in this country. Do you even think it's possible to run an engine with that kind of HP to that kind of acceleration, first of all your breaking the law of physics. Just appreciate the fact that I told the truth, we weren’t suppose to.

 

[skandalous]

I mid as well come clean, you've all been apart of a Psychology study, I’m a psych student at University Wisconsin – Madison, we’re studying patients who pathology lie like alcoholism, drug abuse etc.

Over the Holiday break we have to develop a “story” and analysis the reaction the recipients responded too, I picked a subject and a site that I liked “BMW’s”, sorry to those hurt arguments, but it was more or less what the patient was saying and the overall art of “self invention” how you keep creating a deeper lie from the original, we’re suppose to have a report out in March, if I remember I’ll post a link for validity.

My dad owns a BMW dealership in Milwaukee though, their suppose to get a 645 in Mid-February, I’ll post some pics of the interior if they’ll let me, MSRP about $75,000.

http://psych.wisc.edu

Did you have to make up an obviously false story, or did you have to try and make the lie believable? Just an honest question.

 

[PhatBimmer]

I dunno man....