Hey ppl! Debate - Honda Engines vs BMW Engines
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Is this a joke? Honda and BMW are not in the same class, acura (US) might make two models the TL and RL, which compete with the 3-series and 5-series (although arguably the TL doesn't compete with the 3 series as its FWD not RWD). Otherwise Honda builds simple cars which are built for reliability and commuting. BMW builds sports-sedans and luxury performance cars, Honda builds beaters. When you create something simple, obviously it's more reliable than something technologically advanced. BMW's I6's get almost the same gas mileage on the highway as hondas I4's and their cars are roughly 1000lbs lighter, honda doesn't build a mainstream V8 either. This is a pointless "debate" as there is nothing an informed individual would debate, case closed. Let's compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges.
i think any car engines would stay really long , as long as you drive it and maintain it properly......u knw waa...i have seen the oldest bmw engines still running soo well..thts like around 60s - 90s models ones...those engines....running soo gud...so when it comes to bmw engine longevity it does beat honda doesnt it!!
Not really man. BMW makes cars and motorcycles. Honda is an engine company. They make cars, motorcycles, ATV's, scooters, jetskis, generators, lawnmowers, snowblowers, etc. I love BMW, but when it comes to engines alone, Honda>BMW.
BMW makes great motors and all, and it's easy to say BMW makes better cars, but BMW's cars also cost around twice as much.
Come on dude, why would you even ask this question if you just wanted everybody to say "BMW IS THE BEST" anyways?
Look at the Lotus Elise and that other little car similar to it. Lotus and the other company out-sourced their engines to Honda and Toyota. It is not rocket science to build a good high-revving engine nowadays.
BMW makes great motors and all, and it's easy to say BMW makes better cars, but BMW's cars also cost around twice as much.
Come on dude, why would you even ask this question if you just wanted everybody to say "BMW IS THE BEST" anyways?
Look at the Lotus Elise and that other little car similar to it. Lotus and the other company out-sourced their engines to Honda and Toyota. It is not rocket science to build a good high-revving engine nowadays.
The engines that Honda and BMW build are so fundamentally different that it is hard to even try a head to head comparision. Comparing a High torque I6 vs. High revving V6 is like, well, comparing walnut to oak and asking which is the better wood...?
IF you could make any comparisons regarding reliability, I think most engineers would say that the fundamental design of an I6 would make it more long term reliable than a V6. But that is more about design than brand.
IF you could make any comparisons regarding reliability, I think most engineers would say that the fundamental design of an I6 would make it more long term reliable than a V6. But that is more about design than brand.
BMW I6 engines are the best from the driving point of you - well balanced and very responsive. I used to own Honda (Acura), boring car with uninspiring engine. You just can't compare them, they are in different classes. I doubt that people buy BMW for reliability and gas mileage, people buy it because it's fun to drive.
LOL! Nice analogy!
In terms of longetivity, I'd have to go with Honda...
In terms of power, I'd have to go with BMW...
Nonetheless, it really comes down to how the driver treats his or her car. Some BMWs can outlast some Hondas because their owners took great care of their vehicles.
And these days, you can tune and supercharge or w/e your engine to hell...so, eh, I'm all about looks these days, and BMW will always win in that category!![[thumb]](/images/smilies/icon_smile_thumb.gif "Thumbs Up [thumb]")
In terms of longetivity, I'd have to go with Honda...
In terms of power, I'd have to go with BMW...
Nonetheless, it really comes down to how the driver treats his or her car. Some BMWs can outlast some Hondas because their owners took great care of their vehicles.
And these days, you can tune and supercharge or w/e your engine to hell...so, eh, I'm all about looks these days, and BMW will always win in that category!
This is the third thread on this subject in recent memory.
BMW and Honda make excellent engines, of varying displacements.
"The BMW four-cylinders - on either type of fuel - are civilized beyond belief: Only Honda can beat BMW for petrol power with ultimate manners."
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"For the same money as a basic 116i of 115 bhp - even in the pricey UK - I can buy a sizzling 197 bhp Honda Civic R of legendary pace and quality. BMW will need to up its cash-versus-performance game considerably if they want to compete, and so I can see that a six-cylinder M2 on a 1 Series base will be necessary when the next-generation M3 goes for V8 power."
Jeremy Walton "A new 2002? Not This 1"
Roundel, August 2004, page 44.
BMW and Honda make excellent engines, of varying displacements.
"The BMW four-cylinders - on either type of fuel - are civilized beyond belief: Only Honda can beat BMW for petrol power with ultimate manners."
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"For the same money as a basic 116i of 115 bhp - even in the pricey UK - I can buy a sizzling 197 bhp Honda Civic R of legendary pace and quality. BMW will need to up its cash-versus-performance game considerably if they want to compete, and so I can see that a six-cylinder M2 on a 1 Series base will be necessary when the next-generation M3 goes for V8 power."
Jeremy Walton "A new 2002? Not This 1"
Roundel, August 2004, page 44.
Toyota makes much better engines than Honda IMO.
I prefer German engineering to w/e the Japanese can do, their quality is going back up, why? because everyone would rather own a little Honda isntead....bleh![[xx(]](/images/smilies/icon_smile_dead.gif "Dead [xx(]")
. Speaking of which, didn't BMW team up with Peugeot to make their diesels now? as I recollect Peugeot makes g'damn great diesels, and now maybe that they team up with BMW will make even better diesels .
But respectively I think he wanted to speak about engines alone and not the cars themselves. I think it all boils down to preferences and even though "some" people claim to be unsided thats really a bunch of bologny, everyone has favoritisms and I mean everyone, thats why there will never be the ultimate journalist that I will believe when they review cars, its just not possible to not find something and fall in love with it or like it so much that it will create conflict with ones ideas and other things as well. Thats how it is with me, no matter what I'll love European cars over other cars unless the cars are the Mitsubishi EVO 8 MR, the Ford GT, Ford Focus RS, and possibly the new Corvette C6 but meh. If I like it, I'll like it, no magazine or car show is gonna change my ideaology.
Speaking of which I think both engines have their good sides, but as I've seen in F1 Honda isn't doing good so maybe their engineers just make good engines for cars and not for hardcore 15,000RPM racing. Renault has impressed me, the beuty of engineers![[:p]](/images/smilies/tongue.png "Stick Out Tongue [:p]")
Meh Top Gear airs today Sunday [bmwdance]
I prefer German engineering to w/e the Japanese can do, their quality is going back up, why? because everyone would rather own a little Honda isntead....bleh
. Speaking of which, didn't BMW team up with Peugeot to make their diesels now? as I recollect Peugeot makes g'damn great diesels, and now maybe that they team up with BMW will make even better diesels . But respectively I think he wanted to speak about engines alone and not the cars themselves. I think it all boils down to preferences and even though "some" people claim to be unsided thats really a bunch of bologny, everyone has favoritisms and I mean everyone, thats why there will never be the ultimate journalist that I will believe when they review cars, its just not possible to not find something and fall in love with it or like it so much that it will create conflict with ones ideas and other things as well. Thats how it is with me, no matter what I'll love European cars over other cars unless the cars are the Mitsubishi EVO 8 MR, the Ford GT, Ford Focus RS, and possibly the new Corvette C6 but meh. If I like it, I'll like it, no magazine or car show is gonna change my ideaology.
Speaking of which I think both engines have their good sides, but as I've seen in F1 Honda isn't doing good so maybe their engineers just make good engines for cars and not for hardcore 15,000RPM racing. Renault has impressed me, the beuty of engineers
Meh Top Gear airs today Sunday [bmwdance]
