Worried about Winter

DacoRoman

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Hello everyone.

I have recently purchased a 330i and I'm worried about what the effects of an Upstate New York winter will be on my car's condition.

I will be driving from California to Upstate New York this summer and I'll be spending a year there. There is a 99.999% chance that I won't have covered/enclosed parking available.

I am paranoid that the heavy winters there will damage my beautiful new car, especially since I'll have to keep it parked outside! I am also dreading the thought of driving the car on salted roads.

Am I being unreasonable?

Should I buy one of those total car enclosure covers (covers the bottom and the top) and pretty much mothball it during the heavy snow season?

Or should I say, screw it, they have heavy winters in Germany too after all (although probably not the salted roads, as I understand they use a sand compound), and just drive the car regardless. And if I do what can I do to minimize the damage?

Compounding the problem is that I'll be there for only one winter season, and if I do drive it I'll have to buy some winter tires for it, only to use them for, what, like 3 months (I have the sport pckge).

It'd be nice to be able to have a car during winter, but I want to protect it as much as possible. I also know that mothballing it incorrectly could also cause lots of problems.

The last option is paying double for a place with an enclosed garage, something which would cause a financial strain. And then I'd still have to contend with the road salt issue. Speaking of which, would rust be averted if I would wash the car thouroughly once a week?

I am tempted to leave my just purchased 330i at my parents' house for one year and take an old toyota 4x4 instead..not nearly as fun driving cross country in that!

Anyway, as you can tell I'm obsessing so I'll stop now. Greetings again to all, and I'm looking forward to your responses.
 
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if i had the cash i'd probably just get ziebart to winterize it for me (i think they have some kind of winter coating to help protect cars through winter, they do the undercoat and everything, may be pricey) and drive it all day every day. But maybe thats cause i don't have a new car. salt is the only thing i'd worry about. I go through it every year though so i can't worry about it.

by the way greetings and welcome!
 
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Well, I live in NYC and we only worry about snow one or two weeks in a whole year, upstate is a diffrent story, depends on how far ur going. If ur going to be in albany area id get yourself ready for a harsh winter as the whole lake effect snow storms happen there. : /
 
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Don't go to NY State. It will quite possibly be the worst decision of your life. NY State SUCKS. There is nothing to do there, it is so isolated, and all they get is snow and more snow. Do yourself a favor and avoid going at all costs.
 
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Don't go to NY State. It will quite possibly be the worst decision of your life. NY State SUCKS. There is nothing to do there, it is so isolated, and all they get is snow and more snow. Do yourself a favor and avoid going at all costs.

Hahaha.... I never lived there, but I spent a couple of years in Fulton, NY one winter on weekly business trips, and I've been to other parts of NY State. Yeah, some of it is pretty dead and boring.

If I were in your position, I would seriously think about using/buying a beater for the time there. Also remember that you have no experience driving in snow coming from So Cal, so your risk of accident goes up. Snow season starts in Oct/Nov and can run through March.
 
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I suggest you just get a car cover and take care of your wheels, wash the car as frequently as possible and under all costs during winter, wash the underbody thoroughly when winter is over.
 
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I live in Queens NY,and I must tell you its not the salt you should worry about.You can easily winterize your car,you can also was you car to rid it of the salt residue.However if you will be visiting NYC dont drive.We must have the worst roads as a major city in the entire US.Also its real horrible driving in the winter,especially when its snows.The car, if you dont have AWD will embarass you.Good luck.
 

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Thanks a lot for the feedback guys.

Hehe Mr. Elussive, I have to go there, but I'll only be there for 1 year so it won't be all that bad (I'm hoping).

I'll actually be in Cooperstown so yes, the nightlife will be a bit slow! Oh well..

So I will look into winterizing the car, and wash it very very often. I'll also see if I can get my hands on a $400 Pinto or something [paranoid] [paranoid]

If I do decide to winterize and drive it during the winter, how does one minimize the detrimental effects of cold starts? I read somewhere something to the effect that 2 years of cold starts in very cold weather can cause a decade's worth of wear in a moderate climate like Southern CA.

Cheers guys
 
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Can't you leave your car in San Marino? You can't possibly be that poor living there. It would be simpler to just store your car in San Marino, fly to NY, and just buy a beater while over there. If you're only gonna be there a year, I don't think it's worth the hassle to drive cross country twice (putting miles and lots of road gunk on your car) and then have it brave a NY winter.
 
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Don't worry about cold starts. Just turn your car on and follow the warmup process (I believe BMW states you should start driving immediately). Just drive gently until the car is fully warmed up. Find an auto wash around there that will take care of the underbody of the car. The salt from the streets will corrode underneath your car's body like nobody's business.
 

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codex57 said:
Can't you leave your car in San Marino? You can't possibly be that poor living there. It would be simpler to just store your car in San Marino, fly to NY, and just buy a beater while over there. If you're only gonna be there a year, I don't think it's worth the hassle to drive cross country twice (putting miles and lots of road gunk on your car) and then have it brave a NY winter.
I could leave it. And despite my address I ain't loaded, I'm a new post-grad school grad that's just re-joining the work force. After upstate NY I'll have to relocate to Dallas TX. So if I leave it in SoCA, then I have to fly back and then drive to Dallas, not an unreasonable proposition.

It would be cool to drive cross country in a nice set of wheels though. I actually bought a certified 2002 pre-owned car from Beverly Hills BMW with only, ready for this (?), 1680 miles on it (female living in Beverly Hills that hardly drove the car but leased for 2 years anyway). So if I put some miles on it, it won't be too bad since I still have to properly break the darn thing in anyway and the car is way under mileage as it is. My concern, reasonable or unreasonable, is the issue of winter damage while in Upstate...
 

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MrElussive said:
Don't worry about cold starts. Just turn your car on and follow the warmup process (I believe BMW states you should start driving immediately). Just drive gently until the car is fully warmed up. Find an auto wash around there that will take care of the underbody of the car. The salt from the streets will corrode underneath your car's body like nobody's business.
Well that's good to know. I guess a car designed in Germany should be OK with cold starts.

How do people in the snow belt cope with the whole issue of road salt and corrosion though..it seems like it would never be worth having a really nice car, lest it become a rust bucket in a few years. And how effective is the winterizing process by ziebart, any personal experience?
 
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new cars don't rust, or at least it takes a hell of a lot more to rust one out than it used to. if you wash you car once even every two weeks when it is covered in salt you will be fine. your bmw will handle the snow fine with the proper tires, and you have nothing to worry about starting.

BADDABING
 
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I didn't catch where in N.Y. you were planning on moving. I lived for years in Saratoga, my wife's family have been doing penance in Syracuse area.
Just garage it and get a beater if you care about it! It will be under salt,sand, and all kind of nasties all winter!!!
GET A BEATER!!!!
Why on earth would you move there?!
-Mel
I don't mean to sound insulting-we're thinking Saratoga to be with grandkids-but the winters are SOOO long!
Get a beater-really!
 
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WOW! Cooperstown? Wife went there! (Very nice area in the summer and fall) We still have her "Coby Rock" (stupid ass hex shaped paver-oops! did I say that out loud?) Get ready for winter my friend.
You are nuts?
Get a beater.
-Mel
(you will have some fun though! Great party town! Best pick up line for locals is "nice tooth!")
 
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Upstate NY winters are brutal

I live in upstate NY. The winters can be really tough. Lots of snow in the 2003, either broke the record for most snow fall or came really close with over 100" of snow, most of it 3 storms. 2004 wasn't that bad. But it gets cold.

If you will live a populated area, the roads are cleared fairly quick. However beware of driving by the snowplows on the highways that shoot the salt sand mixture all over. Its like someone throwing rocks at your car. Happened to me this winter after I got the 528. Had to time it just right to make the pass, but I still got nailed.
 
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new cars don't rust, or at least it takes a hell of a lot more to rust one out than it used to. if you wash you car once even every two weeks when it is covered in salt you will be fine. your bmw will handle the snow fine with the proper tires, and you have nothing to worry about starting.

BADDABING

ya know, i'm usually not one to think i rock enough to quote myself, but i'm so proud of how straight to the point this post is that i'm going to save it.
 


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