Why I hate chevrolet a little less

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poboyis said:
i thought i heard somewhere that it was DOHC, o well. But i still find it amusing that it is still a pushrod motor. so many moving parts and all that hp and torque and a redline of 6500, id only trust it to not throw a rod if it were german.

i used to be in absolute love with chevys, especially the vette, but since ive become a mechanic, ive come to realize what absolute crap GM builds compared to german and japanese cars
Well, in an engine with more than 16 valves, even if its OHC, has more moving parts than nearly any 2-valve-per-cylinder pushrod engine. I don't like the pushrod design but obviously it's worked for them. The redline in the bmw ETA motors were only 5500?? 6,000? They are SOHC. I don't think the pushrod design is necessariliy bad - but the ohc design is obviously far superior. I don't know how you could argue that.
 
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and its 5.7 liters, but who is counting?
Actually, it's 6.0 liters.

The redline in the eta is 4700. Rev limiter hits at 5000.

The valvetrain design in the M20 is really no better than a pushrod design - the only thing it eliminates is the pushrod. The M20 engine still has rocker arms!! IMO, the design is actually weaker since the SOHC uses a timing belt as opposed to the short chain or direct gearing in a pushrod engine.
 
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Actually, it's 6.0 liters.

The redline in the eta is 4700. Rev limiter hits at 5000.

The valvetrain design in the M20 is really no better than a pushrod design - the only thing it eliminates is the pushrod. The M20 engine still has rocker arms!! IMO, the design is actually weaker since the SOHC uses a timing belt as opposed to the short chain or direct gearing in a pushrod engine.
Well, nobody said the M20 was BMW's better engines, but saying the design is weaker... I don't agree. I don't see too many new 170hp 2.5liter GM engines that can last almost literally forever with a factory bottom end. There are people who've gotten 400,000+ and 700,000+ on an original engine with only the usual replaced (including headgasket but no other major work).

I know GM has a few good engines, like the 3.8l buick engine. It's definitely the best overall engine in any of my dad's cars. But why only 220? hp?
 
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WOW guys...I was just simply stating that for the 40k less of a price tag, I would buy the vette over the Porche. Definately more bang for the buck.
 

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WOW guys...I was just simply stating that for the 40k less of a price tag, I would buy the vette over the Porche. Definately more bang for the buck.
But that doesn't make it a better car. That's what people are blindsighted by. I'd take a porsche over a vette ANY day. But if I want a sports car and didn't the money for a porsche, then I'd probably go with a corvette. I bet it's an absolute blast to drive.
 

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Yeah its all about the money in the end. If someone could really nit and pick over the pros and cons of a vette vs. a porsche...then they more than likely could afford both dont you think?
 


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