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Not sure what dictionary you used as none that I tried define "Clay Bar". "There are no dictionary entries for clay bar, but clay, bar are spelled correctly." "The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search bar above." "Sorry, no dictionaries indexed in the selected category contain the phrase clay bar."

I guess maybe you used a clay bar supplier's definition? maybe you could send me your dictionary reference source, the one you referenced?

And FYI, I have no problem with this, "to each his own, it's a used car, I'd stripe the old wax, clay bar and put a couple coats Zaino on her." (Bold added) When I got my car new from BMW it was glass smooth and had been hand detailed in the showroom with Zymol products that they included in the sale of the car. (unfortunately the family owned dealership was bought out by the Lithia Group not long ago.)
 
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True Zaino is an all day project for each car if you do a complete Zaino job. I do it twice a year to all our cars (spring and sadly when ready for storage), then use Z2 once a month with the occasional Z6 when needed.

I love looking into the hood of the car and being able to see the clouds in the sky from the optics used in Zaino. Altough a little pricy, especially with several cars, def worth it.

OH, the leather cleaner - the best! Makes it smell like new! And the tire glaze DOES not spin off after application.

It's a process, if done right you will (and everyone else) will be amazed. I had a '96 Cutlass years back for a winter ride, you could totally tell it was never waxed or poorly waxed with Mequires or some cheap crap. One Zaino job and I sold it to my neighbor for $1K more than I paid for it - get this- he knew what I picked it up for.

everyone has their opinion, this is my years of 2cts worth coming from the industry.

Also, when I take my TA to the track, unload her from the trailer, I slam on a think coat of Z5 and dont wipe it off until the end of the day (most of us do this) because of the chunks of rubber from the slicks. PM if you want pics of before and after Zanio jobs an all of my cars.

So we gonna start debating if Split-Fire plugs add 50hp now? j/k [driving]NGK TR8's are where its at!
 
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Big Daddy said:
Not sure what dictionary you used as none that I tried define "Clay Bar". "There are no dictionary entries for clay bar, but clay, bar are spelled correctly." "The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search bar above." "Sorry, no dictionaries indexed in the selected category contain the phrase clay bar."

I guess maybe you used a clay bar supplier's definition? maybe you could send me your dictionary reference source, the one you referenced?
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Wow, really... that were you want to go, huh. Go ahead and cancel my membership to the board. Good luck everyone.
 
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Not sure what your complaint is, if someone quotes a source they should be willing to document it, right? MeanM6 has not taken offense, he now wants to debate spark plugs (Isuggest AC brand..hehe, [joke]!). So are you going to pick up your marbles and go home now? I mean come on![spank]
 
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I skimmed through the threads and have to agree there is really no reason to claybar a brand new car. The whole point of claying is to pick up small debris and inpurity from the paint, but at the same time if it makes you feel better it doesn't hurt as well. Either case, just make sure you apply a nice coat of wax afterwards.

I normally do a once over with a coat of polish before applying the wax.
 
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1. it's not a new car
2. I will look up the history in IE7 tonight and provide a link
3. The plug gig was a joke, apparently everyone else got it, perhaps I can go into detail in Compression ratios, plug gaps, plug heat, dished pistions, 2-3-4-5-6-7 speed transmissions, or even how to build entire cars - THAT WAS A JOKE


Take a Xanax and kill this thread.
 
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Big Daddy said:
So are you going to pick up your marbles and go home now?
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HAHA! Big D, you sound like my dad! I don't know howmany times I heard that from him.

Also, I have enjoyed this back and forth; it really provides those of us who have no idea on the subject a one-stop-thread to find links, opinions, and experiences about using clay-bar. Truthfully, I have been afraid to use clay-bar on my car because I knew it was an abrasive, but I think I'll try it next time I detail the old thing.


Adversity builds character. I think you should stick around! Dan is really cool and always helpful.
 
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MeanM6 said:
1. it's not a new car
2. I will look up the history in IE7 tonight and provide a link
3. The plug gig was a joke, apparently everyone else got it, perhaps I can go into detail in Compression ratios, plug gaps, plug heat, dished pistions, 2-3-4-5-6-7 speed transmissions, or even how to build entire cars - THAT WAS A JOKE


Take a Xanax and kill this thread.
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Glad we were able to end on a light note and a joke!

Thanks Sean, you should clay your car if you have never done it, just like M6 said, use a good lubricant and lots of it.
 
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wow, u guys get pretty worked up over this eh? lol well, u're just passionate about your car care, which is a good thing. :)

i'm new to detailing also, and i have a friend that's been teaching me. he details exotics mostly- ferraris, vettes, lambo's etc. and, there's a lot more to detailing then just going thru the routine, apparently.

one thing he told me is that i don't need to claybar if my car is well-maintained. he said it's something you really only need to do if your car's paint has been exposed to a lot of stuff- ie parked outside a lot in dust, sunlight etc. most cars that are normally well-maintained, washed regularly, and parked indoors don't really require claybaring. he said not to do it more than 1x's a year because it can be a bit overly aggressive.

when he first came over to help me, he looked over my car closely and said it really didn't need it. so we just did wash & porter cable w/ sonus 1 & paintwork cleanser, finishing w/ p21s wax, which i love now & swear by, btw.

but, every scenario is unique. i don't think it can hurt to do a claybar, so long as u follow the proper steps.

the worse part to owning 2 dark-colored cars is... after i break my back all day with the porter cable. i get to enjoy the nice 30 minutes my cars are mirror-shiny clean before the dust starts piling on again. LOL. still, i don't think that will ever make or convince me get a gray, silver, or white car. there's nothing happier than that 30 minutes right after it's squeaky clean.. hahahaha. :)
 
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bigdaddy,

what do u use to blow wax dust off after waxing?

my friend uses a motorized air compressor. those things work greeat, but they are expensive. a bit too much for a hobbyist like me...

well, i kept thinking about it, and decided to buy one of those electrical leaf blower thingies from walmart for $25 bucks. i know it doesn't really filter the air like the compressors do. but, i figure just to blow the left-over wax dust- if i stand far away from the car so as not to sand blast it- i'm hoping it will work.

when i first turned it on just to test, i didn't know it was so powerful and it blew the side door on my garage wide open... LOL. so, i don't think pressure is going to be a problem. (i'll just need to stand far away enough to prevent any particles from blasting the car.)

i haven't tried it on the car yet though, and was wondering if anyone else has thought of this and tried it and how their results are.

thanks,
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I have used a leaf blower and they work great, just make sure you are not in a gritty environment. I normally use my air compressor with a "blow gun" attachment. I also have a California Duster, they work good but leave some waxy residue.
 
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