Thought about a new BMW...All 4 I "drove" today broke!!!

[Kirby]

But German electronics are NOT well known....take TV's, Stereo's and other electronic items you would find in your local Circuit Shitty or Media Markt/Saturn(here in Germany). The vast majority of the items are NOT German brands...they are Japanese(JVC, SONY, TOSHIBA) and other non-german brands.....

True, true for consumer electronics. But the largest conglomerate industrial/commercial/automotive electronics company in the world is in fact German - Siemens. Siemens VDO is the automotive arm, and they are a major supplier of BMW components.

I'm sure there is a great finger pointing game when problems develop. BMW specs the design, Siemens and others build the electronics, one or both of them write the firmware and test it, and when things go wrong, who pays - the consumer!

Look at their Website - sure looks like a 3 series cabriolet to me!

 

[epj3]

That is disgustingly bad luck, Adam. There had to be some kind of correlation with all four cars and their not starting up? No way the chances are THAT bad that four TEST-DRIVE vehicles were all messed up like that.

Come join Tom and I on the dark side good buddy. Japanese reliability, European driving spirit, and trendy styling all in one package. You can't go wrong:

You can thank me later.

Yea except my 9 year old car will still kill that car in handling and overall class.

Go european

 

[deutsch100]

That is disgustingly bad luck, Adam. There had to be some kind of correlation with all four cars and their not starting up? No way the chances are THAT bad that four TEST-DRIVE vehicles were all messed up like that.

Come join Tom and I on the dark side good buddy. Japanese reliability, European driving spirit, and trendy styling all in one package. You can't go wrong:

You can thank me later.

Hey Emile! I dumped my E90 330i last night (7/15/06)!! I left BMW (well, sort of). What did I get??? Will post pics and specs for ya'll later today, or tomorrow. You will NEVER guess what I got....and I am LOVING it!

 

[MrElussive]

Hey Adam, it's been a while! How's everything going? I guess, congratulations on the new car that we haven't seen yet?? Hehehe...I am very curious as to what you picked up!

 

[epj3]

Hey Emile! I dumped my E90 330i last night (7/15/06)!! I left BMW (well, sort of). What did I get??? Will post pics and specs for ya'll later today, or tomorrow. You will NEVER guess what I got....and I am LOVING it!

Lotus elise?

 

[andreyiv]

Now that would be a fun car (elise). I saw one at a car meet recently and couldn't believe how light it was, must be a total blast to drive.

 

[deutsch100]

Lotus elise?

For sure not. I actually don't like that car at all. I have seen a lot of them driving around Los Angeles, and they don't look that hot. Too small and "cheapish". Besides that...our son is due in less than 1 month...so it wouldn't be a very good baby car. You should have seen me though on Friday at our local Porsche dealership with a car seat in each hand. I was going to make those f---ing carseats fit in the back!! he he I knew it deep down....it didn't work. So no Porsche 997s (911s).

 

[codex57]

True, true for consumer electronics. But the largest conglomerate industrial/commercial/automotive electronics company in the world is in fact German - Siemens. Siemens VDO is the automotive arm, and they are a major supplier of BMW components.

I'm sure there is a great finger pointing game when problems develop. BMW specs the design, Siemens and others build the electronics, one or both of them write the firmware and test it, and when things go wrong, who pays - the consumer!

Look at their Website - sure looks like a 3 series cabriolet to me!

Yup. When things go wrong, I'm not going to figure out who screwed up the most. I'll blame both BMW AND Siemens. Or Mercedes and Siemens. Whoever. Cuz what's the one thing they have in common? They're German. Just cuz it's big doesn't mean it's good. Look at GM.

The Japanese don't seem to have the problems with electronics that the Germans do. Whether the design sucked or the execution sucked, the end result is the consumer got screwed. I am worried at how much the Japanese are moving their production into new plants in America tho. The US manufacturers got a bad rap for quality for SOME reason.