This is what happens when cops drive BMWs

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BERLIN (Reuters) - Berlin police rejected accusations Wednesday that their high-powered cars made them bad drivers, despite causing nearly 400 collisions, including 21 vehicles totaled, in two years.

Opposition leaders said the sharp accident rise coincided with police adding 260 high-performance BMWs to their fleet in 2002.

"You can't say Berlin police are bad drivers based on those statistics," a police spokesman said. "You have to differentiate. Some of those incidents were merely a wing mirror breaking off or a dented bumper."

Berlin newspapers suggested the accident numbers were so high because police were insufficiently trained to drive the 177-horsepower cars. Either that, or they were just bad drivers.
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Wow - 177 hp. Real screamers.
Hey never underestimate the power of a BMW engine, we all know they have proven themselves by not playing the HP game and getting the same performance if not better.
 
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Wow - 177 hp. Real screamers.
Haha, I know. Based on the article, I thought they were driving AT LEAST 3.0L BMW's. I think the cops are just bad drivers. But there are a lot of questions we need to ask:

-What are the 0-60 and 1/4 specs of the BMW's?
-How many collisions did they have every 2 years before they had the BMW's?

I need to know that shit, otherwise I can't just read the article, sit back, and laugh.
 
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It souds like these cops need to learn how to park. Mirrors breaking off and bumper dents point to that. Maybe they were trying to park just like Ace Ventura: "Like a glove"...almost.
 
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Hey never underestimate the power of a BMW engine, we all know they have proven themselves by not playing the HP game and getting the same performance if not better.
Well, my advice is not to OVERESTIMATE the power of a BMW engine. Yes, I also drive a BMW, so I know what BMW engines are like. My car has 121 hp, and it FEELS like and PERFORMS like 121 hp. It doesn't perform like it has 200 hp even though it is only rated at 121 hp. I don't understand how BMW "doesn't play the HP game" - BMW horsepower is not somehow magical power. A HP @ "X" RPM is a HP @ "X" RPM - there isn't anything more to it. I don't understand why people think there is something special about BMW's horsepower that somehow makes it superior to the competition's power.

177 hp is not a lot of power - plain and simple. Just because it's in a BMW doesn't make that 177 hp more valuable or powerful. I was just pointing out that the article started out by saying that these officers got "high-powered cars" and then at the end, they tell us that they have 177 hp. It struck me as funny because 177 hp is hardly "high-powered."
 
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Well, my advice is not to OVERESTIMATE the power of a BMW engine. Yes, I also drive a BMW, so I know what BMW engines are like. My car has 121 hp, and it FEELS like and PERFORMS like 121 hp. It doesn't perform like it has 200 hp even though it is only rated at 121 hp. I don't understand how BMW "doesn't play the HP game" - BMW horsepower is not somehow magical power. A HP @ "X" RPM is a HP @ "X" RPM - there isn't anything more to it. I don't understand why people think there is something special about BMW's horsepower that somehow makes it superior to the competition's power.

177 hp is not a lot of power - plain and simple. Just because it's in a BMW doesn't make that 177 hp more valuable or powerful. I was just pointing out that the article started out by saying that these officers got "high-powered cars" and then at the end, they tell us that they have 177 hp. It struck me as funny because 177 hp is hardly "high-powered."
I agree again. Horsepower is horsepower. It's just that BMW does every little thing they can to make their cars as fast as possible. And this is also one reason why you pay a little bit more for the BMW.
 

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jrt67ss350 said:
Well, my advice is not to OVERESTIMATE the power of a BMW engine. Yes, I also drive a BMW, so I know what BMW engines are like. My car has 121 hp, and it FEELS like and PERFORMS like 121 hp. It doesn't perform like it has 200 hp even though it is only rated at 121 hp. I don't understand how BMW "doesn't play the HP game" - BMW horsepower is not somehow magical power. A HP @ "X" RPM is a HP @ "X" RPM - there isn't anything more to it. I don't understand why people think there is something special about BMW's horsepower that somehow makes it superior to the competition's power.

177 hp is not a lot of power - plain and simple. Just because it's in a BMW doesn't make that 177 hp more valuable or powerful. I was just pointing out that the article started out by saying that these officers got "high-powered cars" and then at the end, they tell us that they have 177 hp. It struck me as funny because 177 hp is hardly "high-powered."
I think they ment the torque curve, which bmw's motors typically have a flat torque curve. Not that it means more hp though, and 177 is not much. I wonder what size the engine is, becuase my e30 had a 167hp engine, which 177 is like nothing for a modern day 2.5l. So i'm assuming it was a 3 liter diesel or something (probably was considering fuel costs)
 
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BMW HP is generaly viewed unique because of the smooth delivery of their benchmark engines. I agree that HP is HP no matter who makes it. The difference is how its delivered. The progressive pull throughout the rpms paired with BMW's super driving dynamics amplify the worth of the engines output. This combination makes you feel as if it has more HP when it actully does not.
"Its just 177hp, but its BMW 177hp". This statement can be view as BMW HP is magical and its actually double the number, or BMW HP is magical cause every mile in it is double the fun.
To put it into perspective, earlier this year, before the snow, I had my friend in our bimmer. He drives a Mustang GT. As we were rolling along some rare NE winding roads, he asked me how much HP our 530i had. I said 225, he said "what, it feels like it should have more". I grinned.
 
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BMW HP is generaly viewed unique because of the smooth delivery of their benchmark engines. I agree that HP is HP no matter who makes it. The difference is how its delivered. The progressive pull throughout the rpms paired with BMW's super driving dynamics amplify the worth of the engines output. This combination makes you feel as if it has more HP when it actully does not.
"Its just 177hp, but its BMW 177hp". This statement can be view as BMW HP is magical and its actually double the number, or BMW HP is magical cause every mile in it is double the fun.
To put it into perspective, earlier this year, before the snow, I had my friend in our bimmer. He drives a Mustang GT. As we were rolling along some rare NE winding roads, he asked me how much HP our 530i had. I said 225, he said "what, it feels like it should have more". I grinned.
Nice post! I agree it is the way it is delivered that makes the difference. BMW's power plus performance is world class as are others....
 

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All good points gents......the delivery of the power makes the greatest difference....if a "200hp" car only delivers it in 5th gear at 6000rpm but in the lower gears delivers much less power versus a BMW with 177ps (What the hell is that anyway......the 523i has 170ps and the newer 520i has 170ps....never heard of 177ps in a bimmer....at least not as a listed value) that delivers that power thru the whole powerband which engine would at least "feel" like it has more power??? Which engine truly "has" more power??? I guarantee everyone of you that ANYONE who has ever ridden in my 5er(523i) would never ever guess that it had less than 200hp. Oh and for all my American brethren out there(you females too!) the general consensus is that the 170hp M52tu engine over here is closer to 185hp but because BMW trying to work around certain insurance aspects it is quoted as 170........
 
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my car has 1500bhp and does 0-60 in 1.25 seconds.


the horsepower game is stupid, and "high powered" is relative not to what any of YOU people say, but relative to what the police force had used before. i like BMW because they make complete cars, i don't like Plymouth RoadRunners cause they can't turn or stop.


now that i'm done, the artice gets a wiggle [wiggle] cause i like it.
 
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BMW engines pared with BMW transmissions (which have shorter gears that most other transmissions) do feel stronger because they are much more responsive than in other cars and muximum HP achieved faster in any gear.
 
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That's another vesion I've found on interenet:


BERLIN (Reuters) - Berlin police have rejected accusations that their high-powered cars made them bad drivers, despite notching up almost 400 collisions and 21 write-offs in two years.

Opposition leaders said the sharp accident rise coincided with police adding 260 high-performance BMWs to their fleet in 2002.

"You can’t say Berlin police are bad drivers based on those statistics," a police spokesman said on Wednesday. "You have to differentiate. Some of those incidents were merely a wing mirror breaking off or a dented bumper."

Berlin newspapers suggested the accident numbers were so high because police were insufficiently trained to drive the 177-horsepower cars. Either that, or they were just bad drivers.
 

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There are several agencies here in the states that use BMW patrol cars and numerous agencies that use BMW motors, so I think the statement, "This is what happens when cops drive BMWs" should be; This is what happens when European cops drive BMWs". Just a tad more accurate......right? [rofl]
 
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There are several agencies here in the states that use BMW patrol cars and numerous agencies that use BMW motors, so I think the statement, "This is what happens when cops drive BMWs" should be; This is what happens when European cops drive BMWs". Just a tad more accurate......right? [rofl]
Yeah. I'd become a cop if I could be the South Carolina State Trooper that gets to drive the state's E39 M5 patrol car!
 

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BMW engines pared with BMW transmissions (which have shorter gears that most other transmissions) do feel stronger because they are much more responsive than in other cars and muximum HP achieved faster in any gear.
I know what you mean. Just fyi the current bmw transmissions are built by gm, zf, or getrag.
 


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