New M5 Details released

[aNoodle]

i am sorry if i am the only person who thinks this way but why the **** is there no manuel gearbox on the new m5!!!!!!! i find this to be very wrong. it is an m series bmw that only comes auto. and i dont care if it is faster manuel is always going to be all that much better.

Good question. Are we talking just too much power and torque that it would eat through a manual clutch...people would be in with repairs every few months? Like in a Formula 1 only the computerized clutch (smg) can make it happen? What is BMW spinning now or are there real physical barriers they are coming up against.

 

[tool fan]

dude, im not a tranny...

 

[bmwboy]

hey anoodle there is defintily not to much power for the m5 in a stick look at a dodge viper for gods sake. or even the bmw m5 last gen and z8 those are very powerful manuel only cars.

 

[manuel]

werd, only for me.

 

[Bmw 325i 7803]

hey anoodle there is defintily not to much power for the m5 in a stick look at a dodge viper for gods sake. or even the bmw m5 last gen and z8 those are very powerful manuel only cars.

BMW's are more sensitive cars... That along with the technology on the new BMW and the skills and intelligence of BMW technicians is a combination for disaster.

 

[panzershreck]

some wallpaper sized M5 engine pictures

 

[HornyHornet]

Really nice pictures. You can tell very specifically the how it pieces together.

 

[Kirby]

More new info:
Another new feature is the M5’s power button. At start up, the driver is given access to 400 hp in a default program, dubbed P400. Depressing the button unleashes P500 and the engine’s full 507 hp wallop along with a more responsive throttle. In P500 BMW says the new car will hit 60 mph in 4.7 seconds and its 155 mph top speed in 14.9 sec. With its speed-limiting chip removed, BMW says its new sedan will reach 205 mph, although company policy prohibits official modification, even at the dealer level.

Underpinning the new M5 is a modified version of the 5-series’ MacPherson strut (front) and multi-link (rear) suspension. While the geometry and pick-up points are the same, the ride height has been reduced and more negative camber added to handle cornering forces BMW claims can top 1.3 g.

The new car also adopts electronic damping control (EDC), providing the driver with three stiffness levels: comfort, normal and sport. The EDC is linked to the M5’s power steering system, which provides the driver two assistance levels.



There’s also two-stage dynamic stability control (DSC); the first stage with grip levels corresponding to a standard 5-series, the second stage, dubbed M Dynamic, allowing what BMW describes as “greater levels of slip.” Helping to rein the new M5 in are impressive looking 14.75-inch (front) and 14.5-inch (rear) ventilated and cross-drilled steel discs with twin-piston aluminum calipers. BMW says 62 to 0 mph takes less than 118 ft and 124 to 0 mph less than 460 ft.

BMW claims the new M5 can lap the Nürburgring, where much of its development was done, in 8 minutes, 25 seconds less than the outgoing M5.

 

[PhatBimmer]

sure smg is faster on a track
but many ppl that buy the m5 are not
tracking it

personally, i have not driven smg but in my opinion,
if i drop 80ish grand on a car, i want to feel the snick snick
metallic gear change every dam time. if i wanna press buttons
i'll use my microwave. dam electronics. rrrrrrrrr.

watch the review of teh ferrari 612....get an idea of why paddle
clutch systems are not good for street

NO offense or anything but you remind me of this kids dad when I was visiting my Mech school all he complained about is the electronics and how he dislikes confusers (computers), all the talked about was his stupid Camaro or w/e the **** it was. Get a grip its the future. Sorry its just I dislike that way of thinking, you have good points but the "dam electronics. rrrrrrr." part just gets to me.

"Look honey did you see those cameras hooked up to the confuser so nerdy " - Anonymous Dad

 

[Ghost]

To change with change is the changeless state. - Bruce Lee
(like our bodies changing to hold 98.6 degrees)

I am all for progress, what I don’t like is the lack of choices. Why couldn’t they have the option of an “old school” six speed with an O/D button? I sometimes use sixth in my car but I only have about sixty percent of the hp. Using seventh in a car like that needs room that most environments don’t provide anyway.

 

[epj3]

Good question. Are we talking just too much power and torque that it would eat through a manual clutch...people would be in with repairs every few months? Like in a Formula 1 only the computerized clutch (smg) can make it happen? What is BMW spinning now or are there real physical barriers they are coming up against.

This car doesn't push anywhere near the torque of these tuned cars on the streets -- IE supra's, 3000GT's, viper's, etc. There's ABSOLUTELY no reason they couldn't put a manual tranny on this car. Plus, SMG uses a standard clutch too, the only difference being it is disengaged via hydraulics.

 

[panzershreck]

more pictures... (how many pictures can you take of a single car?)

http://www.bmwm5.com/articles/m5e60/pressrelease2/julye60m5pressrelease4.html

 

[SlicedBread]

Good question. Are we talking just too much power and torque that it would eat through a manual clutch...people would be in with repairs every few months? Like in a Formula 1 only the computerized clutch (smg) can make it happen? What is BMW spinning now or are there real physical barriers they are coming up against.

Isn't it just the torque that will eat up clutches, differentials, and the like? If thats the case then the E39 and the E60 have VERY close peak torque numbers so it really shouldn't be a problem to make it in a manual. Maybe people just didnt want to row through 7 gears, or BMW couldn't make a good 7 speed manual tranny. I dunno. I just wish they would make a true manual transmission the standard on all of their M cars and offer the SMG as an option. That thing still makes me cream my pants just looking at it.