Miata / MX-5 (3rd generation) pre-release spy shots

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frolf said:
you are the most anti-BMW BMW owner i have ever come across. although i agree with you that people get overly-all-bmw, you still get [thumbd][thumbd]
Nah bro, you missed his point. His point was that just because BMW does something one way, it doesn't make it the "right" way. That is how bmw046series was coming across and jrt was just saying "hey man, i don't agree."
 
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I'm gonna have to agree with bmw046series. The passenger-side E-brake is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. It looks like a complete pain in my ass every time I wanna use the e-brake to start from a hill. But my main concern is if my passenger is one of those nosey, "touch first, ask questions later" types that will just pull that handle up without thinking about it and end up screwing me over (would be less than pleasant to have your passenger pull up the e-brake while driving on the highway at 60mph).

I like to think that sporty cars are very driver-oriented. With the e-brake on the passenger side, who the hell does the car company have in mind? It's as if they were drunk when thinking of the location for the e-brake or something....
While I don't think it's a very good idea either, I can understand why it's that way on a Miata: to save money. Which side of the car do the Japanese drive on? Why wasn't the Skyline ever imported here? B/c the cars were designed to be right hand drive and it cost too much to make a version the other way (yeah, I know... poor planning). However, the Chevy having it on that side is pretty inexcusable.
 
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Nah bro, you missed his point. His point was that just because BMW does something one way, it doesn't make it the "right" way. That is how bmw046series was coming across and jrt was just saying "hey man, i don't agree."

i get what you are saying, my comment was a generalization of a lot of threads, not just this one.




moving on - don't the lamborghini diablo's have the handbrake on the LEFT of the driver seat in a left hand drive car?
 
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frolf said:
you are the most anti-BMW BMW owner i have ever come across. although i agree with you that people get overly-all-bmw, you still get [thumbd][thumbd]
Thanks man. What an awesome Super Moderator. Pffffft. [thumbd] I just choose to not be....... Ah screw it, I'ts not worth me taking the time to explain myself to you. [rolleyes]

MrElussive said:
I'm gonna have to agree with bmw046series. The passenger-side E-brake is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. It looks like a complete pain in my ass every time I wanna use the e-brake to start from a hill. But my main concern is if my passenger is one of those nosey, "touch first, ask questions later" types that will just pull that handle up without thinking about it and end up screwing me over (would be less than pleasant to have your passenger pull up the e-brake while driving on the highway at 60mph).

I like to think that sporty cars are very driver-oriented. With the e-brake on the passenger side, who the hell does the car company have in mind? It's as if they were drunk when thinking of the location for the e-brake or something....
It just doesn't bother me to have the E-brake on the passenger side. I have never used my E-brake to start on a hill. I use my E-brake to park my car, and that's it - so it wouldn't really bother me if it were on the passenger side of the console. I also don't transport people in my car who might randomly pull up the emergency brake when I'm driving down the road at 60 mph. I just don't see what the big deal is.
 
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Thanks man. What an awesome Super Moderator. Pffffft. [thumbd] I just choose to not be....... Ah screw it, I'ts not worth me taking the time to explain myself to you. [rolleyes]


haha, i will PM you a box of tissue to dry your tears. two thumbs down isn't the cold blow of death, more a friendly way of saying whats the deal, is there are reason you are so anti? i know bmw is not an engineering god's gift to man, but they are more of a "good car" than you seem to let on to.
 
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Listen, I'm not anti-BMW (except for some of their recent cost-cutting measures and moving to a more mass-produced feel). I rely on my 275,000 mile BMW to get me wherever I go, and I do all of the work on my car myself - I know that they are well-engineered for the most part. I'm not anti-BMW, I'm anti pompous-BMW-owner. What's the deal with you?
 
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codex, good call. I completely forgot about that, and I shouldn't have. My hazard lights button, my volume control, and my temp control are all on the right side of the dash because of the very same reason. I guess I just looked at it and instantly got pissed off without looking for a logical explanation, haha.

jrt, I guess you're lucky that your passengers actually have a brain. This one kid I know has a Subaru WRX and this one friend of mine was riding in his car and just randomly pulled the hand-brake up, completely of nowhere while he was driving. [?|]

So basically, here in Northern NJ, I actually have to look out for stupidity. One week-end I had two friends in my car in NYC and one of them ripped the handle thing above your head (wherever you are sitting in the car) that you use to hold onto while being a passenger in the car, and doubles as like a clothes hanger. He used that to get himself out of the car and it freaking ripped out of its place. My local body shop guy got it back in place, but I think it will just pop out again if somebody pulls on it too hard. Can you imagine how frustrating that can be? I am the one doing the driving, can you at least give my car a little respect??? Sheesh!! [rolleyes]
 
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Geez. Don't think I'd be calling those people my "friends" after that. [mad]
yeah man, no shit. although i heard at the Saab driving school while driving the wet course the instructor randomly pulls the ebrake
 

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Wouldn't the rear wheels lock up if the handbrake was pulled randomly at 60mph causing the car to slide off the road??? What if it's pulled by accident or by some ignorant passenger? That parking brake on the passenger side not only looks weird, but it just seems careless and unfitting... I'd even go as far to call it TEMPTING just sitting here looking at the picture I feel the desire to hold onto it or pull it at LEAST ONCE... It looks like it was put there exclusively for use at the driver side passengers leisure.

BMW isn't the only sensible car company with the handbrake on the drivers side. [clap]
 

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Wouldn't the rear wheels lock up if the handbrake was pulled randomly at 60mph causing the car to slide off the road??? What if it's pulled by accident or by some ignorant passenger? That parking brake on the passenger side not only looks weird, but it just seems careless and unfitting... I'd even go as far to call it TEMPTING just sitting here looking at the picture I feel the desire to hold onto it or pull it at LEAST ONCE... It looks like it was put there exclusively for use at the driver side passengers leisure.

BMW isn't the only sensible car company with the handbrake on the drivers side. [clap]
I don't understand the big deal!! It's part of the car's design, and if you are going to ALLOW someone to sit in your passenger seat who would pull the EBRAKE while going 60 mph, then maybe YOU shouldn't be driving on OUR roads. Thanks.
 

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I don't understand the big deal!! It's part of the car's design, and if you are going to ALLOW someone to sit in your passenger seat who would pull the EBRAKE while going 60 mph, then maybe YOU shouldn't be driving on OUR roads. Thanks.
I would.... [rofl]

As for our roads you dont pay taxes yet. [:D]

But all kidding aside that lever could get pulled by accident (not likely but it's a lot easier for it to happen in that setup than the current one) and unfortunately passengers aren't always responsible adults who think before they act. It almost makes revenge tempting to say a distraught girlfriend or wife or petulant child or whatnot.
 

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I would.... [rofl]

As for our roads you dont pay taxes yet. [:D]

But all kidding aside that lever could get pulled by accident (not likely but it's a lot easier for it to happen in that setup than the current one) and unfortunately passengers aren't always responsible adults who think before they act. It almost makes revenge tempting to say a distraught girlfriend or wife or petulant child or whatnot.
I don't pay taxes yet? I have a W2 that disagrees.
 

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Wow......I thought we were supposed to be talking about the car not each other on this thread? Or maybe I misread something?
Anyway I think the car looks great....I think you will see more men willing to drive this iteration of the Mx-5 than previously....and It does look like it took some slight design cues from Aston Martin as someone mentioned earlier......On a quick side note, Ricey tailights??? The car is freakin' Japanese how can you complain about "ricey" lights????
 


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