You all may be right about the Honda, but there are a lot of people like me who have a Honda and know that what they get is a solid honest vehicle. My 97 SUV is one of the first on the market and I have never put a penny into it. With 90k miles it uses no oil and it shows no wear and I am still on the original battery. Sitting right next to it in the garage is my X3 and I have to say that when I have to go around town each day the vehicle that I choose is the Honda. I tell my self its becouse I don't want to put the miles on the BMW, but let me tell you the real reason. That is the Honda SUV with it's automatic is so much more a friendly car to drive in traffic than my X3 with the 6 speed. When it comes to a long trip you will find me in the X3. Chuck Abbott.