Hidden radar detector options?

epj3

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MyHarley said:
I love my Valentine 1 and the more I use the more I learn.......just got back from Shreveport.........Mapquest stated 5 hours 26 minutes......well I got there from Houston in 3 hours and 28 minutes and stopped twice........you are right there is nothing for instant laser but you should learn how to speed wisely, [slap] not to speed excessively without pointers (other cars) in the front and at least one pointer in the back......this is what protects you from instant radar......it will pick up the radar if someone in front of you has been subjected to instant radar.......also my back radar was a lot more receptive than the notice I was getting from the front,,,,,,,,so I mounted a little higher and now its receptive on front and back at a much quicker notice.......I felt totally wiped out after my trip from all the concentration and excessive speed for this trip, being on alert the whole time was wearing me out.........it became a game and luckily this trip, I hit the bonus round with no tickets either way, but passed least 10 round trip getting tickets, such a shame..........
Well, I think I have the speeding smartly thing down. Mapquest says the trip from my home to the school i was going to last fall was a 2 hour 55 minute drive - i had it down to about an hour and 50 minutes exact. I made the trip more than 20 or 30 times too, so I did a good job not getting pulled over.
 

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"Instant on" is a term used for microwave (K and X Band, the old stuff) radars that in the beginning were always on. They added an instant on feature wherein the signal was not being transmitted until such time when the operator pulled the trigger, even though the unit was on and warmed up.

Lidar is LIght Detection And Ranging uses the same principle as RADAR. The lidar instrument transmits light out to a target. The transmitted light interacts with and is changed by the target. Some of this light is reflected / scattered back to the instrument where it is analysed. The change in the properties of the light enables some property of the target to be determined. The time for the light to travel out to the target and back to the lidar is used to determine the range to the target. These units are always on, but do not track or register speed until triggered. The term "instand on" never was never applied to them because they were never otherwise produced. They are detectable but you'd better be real fast and paying close attention.
 
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Big Daddy said:
Your talking about "instant on" radar guns and I do not believe any detector will catch them as they are not sending out a signal until triggered. They do not have instant on with Lidar, which is what most agencies are using today. Therefore I would not be too concerned about instant on.
Yes, the "instant on" is aka as POP l/ll. It is when the officer points the radar/lidar and hits its target and then switches off. The way to determine is just as Lisha stated and that is to use other cars as a detection source. Your detector will detect a K band or X band and then shut down instantly. If this does this a couple of times in front of you you know it probably is POP radar. Just as Dan stated you will need to learn how to read the detector. Knoledge is half the battle with detectors. Learn how to read what they are telling you. It will save you in headaches and tickets....


jszar said:
I got tagged by a lazer once. I think thats what your talking about. It is 'instant on' so it only transmits when you are aiming at someting and pull the trigger...so there is no warning, its impossible to detect.
Without going into extream specifics you are correct as well. But is is detectable. The only time "instant on/POP" is not detectable is when there are no cars in front of you (with a mile) to pre-warn you of the on/off of the gun.

Laser is an other story. If it hits you you are as good as caught except if your detector can detect it on another vehicle as well and/or as quoted from the V1 website, "Advance warnings require the greatest possibility of receiving a weak fragment of the beam while it is being used on traffic a good distance ahead".

There is also a substance called VEIL that reduces your car's signature. This will not cancel or jam Laser Radar, but in conjunction with a detector and/or jammer it will be a lot harder for the laser to lock on your car. The V1 does a great job of early detection....

Hope some of this helps to some degree....
 

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I'm not to concerned about laser. PA troopers still use 90% radar. I don't travel out of the state that often, but will sometimes. I don't mind investing in a valentine 1 though (or a passport 8500). Most likely the V1 though.

Laser jammers are legal though, and easy to get. It's usually 2-4 sensors/transmitters in the front grill. Only reason it's not illegal is becuase as someone said, laser is regulated by the FDA. I'm not worried about being pulled over enough to go through over $1200 in warning/jamming systems. One radar detector is more than enough for me.

Plus, even if the radar/laser detector picked up laser perfectly, the cop only has to have it on for a split second, and its not like you could detect laser/lidar 2 miles away like you can radar. I tend to think laser detectors are a waste of money.
 

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2005 SML Radar Detector results are in!!

The 2005 SML radar detector test results are in!!

Radar Detection:



Over the hill radar detection:





Laser detection:



How well a Radar Detector Detector (RDD) can detect you:





 


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