2007 BMW 328i vs 2007 Infiniti G35 Sport

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^ Tom don't kid yourself. Infiniti's lose their value like America's Social Security system.

...You're assuming it (SS system) had value to begin with.... [fake] [bigcry] ...I guess one doesn't know whether to laugh or cry. haha!
 
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Regardless, if it is a question of available HP, I would gladly give the $6500 to reach the 335i instead of buying the Infiniti.

Plus, wait 6 months and you'll pick a certified one for the same price, but a much nicer vehicle, even pre-owned or second hand!
 

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I would get the G35 or G35x or G37 over the 328i or 328ci or 328xi any day if it came down to purchasing. If I were leasing, I would probably go with the 328 since BMWs lease cheap, cost nothing to maintain, get 30mpg on the highway, and are a pleasure to drive. Infiniti is seen as a very nice car, but it does not yell status symbol or I'm rich like the BMW badge will. For that reason alone, if I wanted a performance car, but not the hassel, I would get the infiniti. However, we cannot forget that for the lease rate of a former 325i, the 328i is not only an overall better car, but it performs like an E46 330i with just a little less torque, but an extra gear.

If money were in the equation the G35 wins for that young professional who wants a slick car aimed at taking on the 3 series. Also I heard the 335i and G35 with options, lease for roughly the same price give or take $10 and the right dealer... Car and driver said it, the 335i gives you e46 M3 performance in a much easier package. 0-60 in under 5 seconds as well as better gas mileage, 4 doors, an automatic transmission, a 10k discount, and 38 ft-lbs more torque. I'd take the 40 torque over the 35 hp for day to day running anytime. The 335i would have blown the Infiniti away and the value-hunters would have whined that if you compare the cars on paper option to option, and going by MSRP disregarding maintenance, that the 335i is 10k more. In reality if we compare apples to apples on option quality, and factor in the msrp discount it's more like $5,000. If you have the means, that is well worth it for a sleeper M3. The G35 does not perform better than an E46 M3, so the 335i wins hands down. The 328i is BMWs budget model, the G35 is Infiniti's super performance sedan, that alone makes the comparison uneven.
 

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Bmw 325i 7803: I don't believe the 335i gives you E46 M3 performance.
Compare the specs, the 335i is till a little, but significantly behind.
And the M3 is specifically built for performance.

And your numbers are inaccurate: 0-60 in under 5 seconds

BMW claims the 335i's 0-60 mph time is 5.3 [5.5 auto] sec
(Top speed is 130mph [limited electronically] or 150mph)
 

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Bmw 325i 7803: I don't believe the 335i gives you E46 M3 performance.
Compare the specs, the 335i is till a little, but significantly behind.
And the M3 is specifically built for performance.

And your numbers are inaccurate: 0-60 in under 5 seconds

BMW claims the 335i's 0-60 mph time is 5.3 [5.5 auto] sec
(Top speed is 130mph [limited electronically] or 150mph)
Actually car and driver did a test, google it, and BMW understates the 0-60 time, that time is extremely conservative. Car and Driver claims 4.8 seconds, I say 5 seconds, and they claim the handling and performance tests were equal or better than the E46 M3. They did say that their test car had a tiny bit more boost in the turbo than the average 335i. If you get the sport package its limited to 155 I believe, or maybe they're making it 150 and leaving M cars with the 155 top speed, a joke considering everyone here knows the 335i can top 150, 155, even 160...

Going by car and driver, I made that comparison. Although the 335i has to be quicker off the line considering it produces 38 ftlbs of more torque than the m3 and at much lower rpms... I also think BMW has made a mistake with a 400hp V8 that produces 295 torque... I'd rather have 360hp and 325 torque. How many people buy the M3 so they can rev it to 8250rpm and take advantage of those 400 horses with swift acceleration at 100+ MPH.
 
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high speed: i am getting really sick of repeating this statment: "while top speed has to do with the engine, when it is limited, it is because the top speed is tire rate dependent." why do you think non sports package 330i only hits 130, while the same engined sports package can hit 155? H speed rating vs V speed rating on the tires. and i believe it's capped at 155 only because of the tire rating at that point also.

at least on the top speed point, its a matter of tire physics, and not bmw tiering their cars. sure wouldn't be fun to let your car run balls out at top speed past 155, when the sidewalls might blow at 155 huh? you can opt to put on Z rated or other higher speed tires, but for whatever reason i haven't seen too many bmws with that tire option. i'd say more cost issue than tiering, or issue of the car not being able to live up to 168 or whatever other top speed rating possible w/ higher speed tires, making it not as cost efficient? i suppose higher rated sidewalls prolly cost more.. but either way i'm always up for more education.
 

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high speed: i am getting really sick of repeating this statment: "while top speed has to do with the engine, when it is limited, it is because the top speed is tire rate dependent." why do you think non sports package 330i only hits 130, while the same engined sports package can hit 155? H speed rating vs V speed rating on the tires. and i believe it's capped at 155 only because of the tire rating at that point also.

at least on the top speed point, its a matter of tire physics, and not bmw tiering their cars. sure wouldn't be fun to let your car run balls out at top speed past 155, when the sidewalls might blow at 155 huh? you can opt to put on Z rated or other higher speed tires, but for whatever reason i haven't seen too many bmws with that tire option. i'd say more cost issue than tiering, or issue of the car not being able to live up to 168 or whatever other top speed rating possible w/ higher speed tires, making it not as cost efficient? i suppose higher rated sidewalls prolly cost more.. but either way i'm always up for more education.
You're right, I figured everyone knew why it was limited to 130, but I think at the speed rating of 150 or 155 it's then under the same tire spec. So perhaps BMW is reserving 155 for the M cars and 150 for the rest. I doubt the 5 mph would blow the side walls? Then again I'm not in the tire design business...
 
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i originally wrote somethign with above post, but scrached it, then went back and did some research before posting:

i thought i saw a 4.8 sec 335i article over at edmunds.. well here you go: 335i article
i don't know if you can call .5psi boost "tiny" esp when it ends up making 19 more horses at 6295rpm in comparison to another owner's 335i AT THE WHEEL!!

messing with boost from what i know improves numbers, but stresses the engine a bit more. not all turbos are made equal right? i wonder if that is the mystery behind this sweet running 335i.

overall tho the new turbo engine is sweet, and should be giving the e46 m3 a run for its money. and because the e90 rocks way stiffer body and other improvements in comparison to e46, i coudl see why the new 335i could compete w/ the older e46m. now i see this is as an exciting indicator towards what a beast the m3 will end up being!!
 
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You're right, I figured everyone knew why it was limited to 130, but I think at the speed rating of 150 or 155 it's then under the same tire spec. So perhaps BMW is reserving 155 for the M cars and 150 for the rest. I doubt the 5 mph would blow the side walls? Then again I'm not in the tire design business...
hmm interesting.. i should look into the 150 top speed as well. iirc my car, and others from 03 were electronically limited at 155 with the sports package.

if bmw is indeed capping non-m s at 150, then something's fishy. well i'll look into it later.. i've been up too long.. ^^
 


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