What will troubled Ford do?

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A flurry of developments at Ford Motor makes the company seem in even worse shape than bigger rival General Motors.

The latest: Ford (F) reported in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission late Wednesday afternoon that it lost more money in the second quarter than it previously reported — $254 million instead of $123 million. Ford said it had changed its estimate of pension-related costs.

That brought the automaker's losses for the first half to $1.4 billion, vs. a first-half profit last year of $2.1 billion.

GM (GM), by contrast, reported a net loss of $3.0 billion the first half, but — delighting Wall Street — said it made an operating profit of $1.2 billion the second quarter if the big costs of employee buyouts and other restructuring costs were set aside.

Ford also said in the SEC filing that its Premier Automotive Group — Jaguar, Volvo, Land Rover and Aston Martin — would lose money this year instead of breaking even, as previously forecast.

Jaguar, puzzlingly, is the drag.

"The past 10 years we've seen growth in the luxury and premium market. Growth in sports cars, different kinds of niche vehicles. Vehicles that appeal to people that have extra money. While all these other companies have been exploding, Jaguar has gone nowhere," says George Magliano, an analyst with Global Insight.

Earlier Wednesday, Ford announced hiring former Goldman Sachs banker Kenneth Leet as a strategic adviser to CEO Bill Ford.

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Ford's announcement said that "Leet will report directly to Bill Ford and work closely with senior management in exploring a broad range of strategic alternatives for the company." Talks with Leet had been going on about two weeks, Ford said.

Ford Motor, founded by Henry Ford, still is controlled by the Ford family. "Having people from the outside can help," says Stefano Aversa, COO of AlixPartners, an international turnaround consulting firm based in Michigan. "It is more difficult for a family business to achieve a turnaround," he says, because the family is personally involved, not professionally detached.

Ford spokesman Tom Hoyt pointed out that in a question-and-answer session July 20 after Ford announced second-quarter earnings, Bill Ford said "all aspects of the business are on the table." However, Hoyt said, Ford also said the company had no plans to sell any of its brands or the profit-making Ford Motor Credit financing arm.

A report Wednesday in The Wall Street Journal, relying on unnamed sources, said that Leet would specifically look at selling Jaguar and Ford Motor Credit and forming alliances with other companies to cut costs. A source with knowledge of Ford's talks with Leet, but who didn't want to be identified because details weren't being released, confirmed that report to USA TODAY.

"It's a very dark moment for Ford," crisis-management expert Gerald Meyers said. "I'm sure they're considering thoughts that have never occurred to them before. I wouldn't be surprised if Ford did something radical."

Bill Ford has said bankruptcy is not an option, but Burnham Securities analyst David Healy says he thinks Ford is headed for a bankruptcy filing within five years. He predicts the company will burn up $7 billion this year and up to $9 billion next year. It has $23 billion cash, including its health care fund.

Meyers, CEO of struggling American Motors when Chrysler bought it in 1987, thinks Ford should go private: "The stock is cheap. It wouldn't take much to buy all the (shares the Ford family doesn't own). Then they could repair to their inner sanctum and work out their problems out of the glare of the press and the SEC," and without relentless demands for short-term profits from shareholders.

"Radical times call for radical solutions," Meyers says.

"I would never say never, but I think chances are pretty slim," because the family wouldn't want to come up with the money to buy all the shares, says John Murphy, auto industry analyst for Merrill Lynch.

It would cost about $13.3 billion to buy all 1.9 billion outstanding Ford shares at Wednesday's closing price of $6.96. That was up 38 cents on news of Leet's hiring.

Even though Wall Street cheered Ford's hiring of Leet, the move can be seen "as bordering on a desperate measure to restructure, and an acknowledgement that some of the previous restructurings haven't worked," says Bill Schwartz of TBM Consulting, which advises automakers and others on production and strategy.

Also Wednesday, Ford tried to blunt an unveiling of redesigned 2007 GM pickups by announcing price cuts of up to $1,400 on its F-150 pickup and a boost in towing capacity to as much as 10,500 pounds.

Ford's F-Series pickups remain the best-selling vehicles in America, but sales are collapsing — down 45.6% in July from a year earlier, according to Autodata, and off 12.3% the first seven months.

Year-ago sales were inflated by extraordinarily generous sales incentives. "But for whatever reason, if your F-150 sales are off 40%, that's a stark number, like losing a member of your family," Meyers notes.

GM's full-size pickup sales are sagging, too, in their last year before the redone 2007 models are launched this fall, but GM's haven't fallen as far as sales of Ford's newer-design F-Series.

The news flurry Wednesday comes after a shocking monthly sales report Tuesday. Toyota outsold Ford Motor last month, taking over the No. 2 spot in U.S. new vehicle sales. Toyota itself said that probably won't last, but it shows Ford's vulnerability.

GM, despite a sales slump, remains comfortably ahead of Ford and Toyota.

Ford, overall, is in worse shape than GM, says Global Insight's Magliano. Both have high labor and health care costs, and both are losing market share as consumers increasingly turn toward more fuel-efficient cars and trucks. But Ford's future product lineup looks less promising, he says.

The F-Series was the only Ford among the 10 best-sellers last month. GM had four vehicles in the top 10: Chevrolet and GMC full-size pickups and Chevy Impala and Cobalt sedans.

Says Merrill Lynch's Murphy: "Fundamentally, Ford is in pretty tough shape.

"I think everything is pretty much on the table at Ford right now."
 
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Hmm, a few years back, when GM first got in serious trouble, I think the analysts were saying Ford was in for rough times but not in deep trouble? Look at what GM stock is doing now, maybe Ford can do the same...
 
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It's sad to see our American automakers in such trouble. But they did it to themselves by building junk for so many years. I think they build quality cars now but Americans BELIEVE that Japanese cars are better and perception is reality. Toyota seems to be unstopable right now. But they've earned their good name by building good cars for decades now.

I don't know what the answer is for getting GM and Ford back in the black but I'm pulling for them.
 
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Pete K said:
It's sad to see our American automakers in such trouble. But they did it to themselves by building junk for so many years. I think they build quality cars now but Americans BELIEVE that Japanese cars are better and perception is reality. Toyota seems to be unstopable right now. But they've earned their good name by building good cars for decades now.

I don't know what the answer is for getting GM and Ford back in the black but I'm pulling for them.
I would not say that they were building junk. Prices for labor and parts went through the roof, in order to maintain affordable cars, yes cheaper parts went into them. Nobody wants to pay 30+k for a ford, dodge, chevy whatever unless it is top of the line.
 

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I've said it for a while now, GM is going to kill the Unions, send Delphi out of business, and start from scratch, the bad quality is from that overpriced labor. As much as you guys know how badly I hate the Japanese automakers, I don't understand why people always act like Toyota is a godsend, I say support your own country first (well BMW could be American :) ). In my opinion Toyota is going to kill themselves, people put so much hype and the media props them up like a golden cow, I've seen it before, and it will happen they will fall, they've had 3 million recalls this year, BMW has only recalled like 50,000 cars this year? Don’t fall into publicity, you lose in the end.

Its all hype and I guarantee cash rich GM and Ford will have the last laugh.

Here is the latest…

Ford Building Hydrogen Engines
http://www.syracuse.com/business/poststandard/index.ssf?/base/business-0/1154769713107940.xml&coll=1

Ford Selling Jaguar and Land Rover?

http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk...et-to-sell--loss-making-jaguar-name_page.html
 
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I wish GM would kill the unions, but I don't see how it's going to happen.

I also fail to see how you're supporting your country by blindly buying GM/Ford instead of Toyota.

GM/Ford management are morons. Why would I want to support them? Line their pockets? Why? Line GM/Ford's pockets? Why? They cook the books so much, what I pump in is minimized in the taxes they pay.

I'd rather support Toyota/Honda/Nissan/Hyundai (yeah, I threw a Korean in there) because they're increasingly pumping up their US investment whereas GM/Ford are taking advantage of NAFTA and pumping investment out. I'd rather support a US worker by buying a (for example) Camry than some Mexican worker by buying a Focus.
 

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Well your ideology is skewed (big-time).

General Motors and Ford regardless of how shitty the management may be, is still an American Company, they still run their business in America (hopefully it stays that way).

Toyota etc. is not, they never will be, just because you build a fing plant doesn’t make you any better (just wait a few years when the Unions clob onto them and see what happens, the wheels are in motion).

GM and Ford has to build plants out of the US because they can’t afford to operate in the US anymore 1. Unions 2. Less Sales 3. Less Profits for R&D(look at the new Jag XK). 4. More Expenses than Income due to overpaid Unions.

Why is it because a company wants to make a profit ALWAYS gets cut down (is it jealousy?). They are taking advantage of NAFTA(thank your Local Liberal for that), because they can’t afford to keep the factories in the US because it costs to much to do so.

I am very Pro-American, If you think Toyota and Datsun are honest companies you have another thing coming, if you think Camris are made in the US you have a lot to learn about supply chains.

GM & Ford will bust the Unions by putting them out of work then hiring temps through other companies contracted to work in their factories that are small enough to operate without a union.

Wake Up and Realize if you Buy American--Your Supporting Americans (who wants to work in a factory anyways).

Where do you think the money goes after you buy that Japo-Box, Japan DUH???!?! Where do you think the money goes after you buy that GM, America DUH???!?!
 
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I say support your own country first (well BMW could be American :) ).
So why do you own two BMWs (and two BMWs that are NOT built in the US, for that matter).

And who wants to work in a factory? LOTS of people. If all the American automotive companies were to shift their NAFTA-based Canadian and Mexican production back to the US, there would be people lined up at the door to get those assembly jobs. Automotive factory line workers are classically paid very well in this country (whether they belong to a union or not) and usually have pretty good if not excellent benefits.
 

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Well BMW isn't threating to GM, Toyota is. Its a Ferrari v Hyundai thing really can't compare the too. Its an expensive luxury car, the US automakers don't make those cars, (Caddy is not a luxury car). I know there is a bit of Bigotry, but I don't think Europe has the stamina to destory the US anymore, Japan does.

They can't because it costs to damn much money to employ them because of the Unions and they want $60 an hour to screw in a lightbulb.
 
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I never said Toyota and Datsun (?) are more honest companies than Ford/GM. Honesty never came up.

And yes, I think the unions are ruining everything. We need changes there.

However, I also don't think we should blindly support bad US companies. Not all of their problems are Ford/GM's fault, but a lot of it is. Particularly bad management decisions. However, competition, whether foreign or otherwise, is still good. That's why I own a European car. If all things were equal, sure I'd like to support a US company over a foreign one. But things aren't equal.

We need a lot of reform in many areas. I'm particularly concerned about cutting out a lot of union protections (why GM/Ford can't simply knock out unions like you think they will cuz there are too many rules protecting them) and officer compensation packages.

You may not want to work in a factory, but lots of people do. Particularly if they're not all that educated. If I'm gonna support one part of the chain, it's going to be the factory worker who's more likely to be my neighbor/friend rather than some giant corporation somewhere who gives way too much of its profits to a select totally unworthy few.
 
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Well I own a Ford, (Mustang) and 99% of the parts are stamped China and Indonesia, Hell my Ford OEM headlights were made in Singapore. Buying American does not nessesarily mean the profits are going to Americans. BMW has a couple of plants in the US as does Honda Toyota yadda yadda yadda. The employees are American, so foriegn interests in American are pumping foriegn currency into our economy. In this day and age...a car is a car is a car, unless you buy top of the line Merc and Bimmers and what not, you are getting the same quality whether it be Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Ford, Chevy...whatever. The parts are all made in the same places by people that make less in a day than any of us do in an hour.
 
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Hmm you really can't compare the number of recalls that Toyota and BMW have. It depends on where the recalls are centralised, but apart from that, Toyota sells a hell of a lot more than BMW does.

All of this comes down to globalisation, and Toyota will definitely not be falling any time soon. And continuing on with the globalisation year 11 economics theme, GM has many subsidiaries, and we're talking European, Australian, Asian, you name it, while Toyota, like GM has production plants all over the world that still account for profit and loss for either company. GM may be an American corporation, but don't forget the brands that it owns, and the countries to which they are historically alligned with, as well as the shared platforms and vehicle architecture. There is a ton more to it.
 

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Back on topic to what Ford is going to do to solve their woes... The answer? They are going to replace all those expensive plastic gas caps with a plastic flap that opens from the pressure of the gas nozel, starting with the 2008 models.[rofl]
 


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