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Ok I thought I knew this, but then I started thinking about it and got extremely confused. It's about gear ratios. If a car has a 4.23 gear ratio in 1st gear, then does that mean it takes the gear to turn 4.23 times for the crankshaft to make 1 revolution, or it takes the crankshaft 4.23 turns for the gear to make 1 revolution? I know it's simple but for some reason I'm just extremely confused. I think it's the latter one...?
 
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I am truly interested.......what does this knowledge do help me in the purchase of a vehicle or performance upgrades. I am tired of being ignorant in these matters.
 
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You choice of final drive ratio boils down to Launch Power vs. Top Speed. A higher ratio gives more launch power, but fewer turns of the wheel. Therefore, you go less distance in a given time. Therefore you have a lower top speed, and also less gas mileage.

Higher ratios are desirable for towing and in some cases drag racing. Justin could elaborate on that. Lower ratios are good for average, typical driving and fuel economy.
 

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Dinan55 said:
Wait.. that's not right, then you'd be going really fast? Damn it I'm so confused.
Gears change the horsepower and torque. In first gear, there is more torque going to the back wheels than the engine can produce. When the engine spins 4.23 times, your driveshaft will spin once. Dont think about the gears spinning, think of it as the engine speed being translated into driveshaft speed.

For your fifth gear, probably .81:1... every time the engine makes .81 rotations, your driveshaft will make 1. Hence why fifth gear makes the car fast but has little torque.

Then you have your final drive (differential) that has, say, a gear ratio of 3.73.

Everytime that driveshaft spins 3.73 times, the wheels spin once. So say you're in first gear. Your engine is spinning at 2000 RPM.
2000 divided by 4.23 (first gear) = 472.81. This is your driveshaft's rotational speed (rpm). Now take that and divide it by your final drive ratio, 3.73.

472.81 / 3.73 = 126.76. That means your wheels are spinning 126.76 RPM.

Do the same for fifth (as we said it could be .81:1), at 2000 rpm, 2000 / .81 = 2469.14 (driveshaft RPM), 2469.14 / 3.73 (Differential/final drive gear ratio) = 661.97 wheel rotations per minute.

That also explains why first gear has much more torque than fifth. The engine uses 2000 combustions in first gear to make the wheels spin only 472 times per minute, but the engine doing the same 2000 combustions per minute in fifth can make the wheels spin 661.97 times per minute.
 
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Ohhh I understand now, I thought the numbers had to do with only the gearbox and the crankshaft and nothing with the driveshaft. That was a great explanation, thanks.
 
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you can check your rear end gear ratio roughly by putting a chalk mark on your driveshaft, and a chalk mark on your rear wheel, turn the drive shaft manaully until it has completed one revolution, while counting how many revolutions the rear wheel makes.
 

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xLibelle said:
because some long winded, repeated three times over explination got a more positive responce
yes but he didnt understand what you ment by input, output, etc. He thought it was talking about speeds of gears, not speeds of wheels and stuff.

Sorry if it insulted you??
 


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