Honda teams up with BMW!! REALLY!

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Honda Motor Co. said Thursday it has joined General Motors Corp. and BMW AG in jointly developing technologies for hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles and vehicles equipped with hydrogen-powered engines.

The move is expected to intensify already fierce competition among automakers developing fuel-cell vehicles, which are seen as the principal automobiles of the next generation.

Honda said it took part in a consortium to develop with the two automakers a standard for the coupling mechanisms of liquid hydrogen tanks.

"This is merely a part of our comprehensive research into possible future hydrogen supply mechanisms and does not involve joint development of fuel-cell vehicles," said Honda spokesman Hiroshi Oshima in a statement.

"Honda realizes that is essential to research hydrogen supply mechanisms from a variety of approaches and this is the reason for its participation in this consortium," he said.

Source: Xinhua
 

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Omg Like Wtf Lololol1!1!1! Honda Is The Suck!!11!!!! Ogm!!!! Japanes Esuck1!!s!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111111111111 111111111111111111111!


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I KNEW you would love that one!!!!!

I can see it now - all the ricers will put Roundels on their cars!!!!!

Does this mean you are going to put a VTEC sticker on the bimmer????? [rofl]
 

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epj3 said:
Omg Like Wtf Lololol1!1!1! Honda Is The Suck!!11!!!! Ogm!!!! Japanes Esuck1!!s!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111111111111 111111111111111111111!


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I gots two M3's, love 'em. Had 5 Honda's love 'em. You like lots of HP / Liter? - you're talking Honda and BMW.
 
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Thirsty! Thirsty! Thirsty! I need H2O. I am thirsty for a hydrogen fuel M3. Plus we need a lot of retail hydrogen fuel stations! Man, those cars are not going to drink what you drink!


Hydrogen filler nozzle
source: green energy job

750hL (1999)
745h (2001)

So far there are only 2 choices and 7-series are way too big for me.

fuelcell Honda w/o Roundel
 

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Carl and Stitch see you are missing something this web-site contains a fierce battle between Japo-Crapo and good old German cars, thats where all that stuff from Eric comes from. He lost his minds years ago in deciding Honda (ha ha ha) was a good car (if your on a budget) ((a really tight budget)).
 
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I have a strong feeling that the car manufactors are having sort of like a "battle" with the fuel suppliers from providing thousands and thousands of retail hydrogen fuel stations around the world. For now Shell is the only octane company that is going to carry hydrogen, but business is business, the others & the industry have to make some money and not monopolize the world's market. So it is better for the car manufactors to team up and plan ahead! You know, "Game Plans behind the big picture!"

Estimates of the current cost of 2.2 lb of hydrogen (regarded as the equivalent of a gallon of gasoline) range from $1.25 to $4.66. (This price should be compared to the cost of gasoline excluding taxes.) Even a 25% improvement in fuel economy may not offset the penalty cost of this price. Government incentives may help put a limited number of hydrogen-fueled vehicles on the road. However, a mass market would need either a substantial reduction in the cost of hydrogen or a substantial increase in the cost of gasoline. Hydrogen-fueled ICE vehicles are technically feasible, but the economic aspect of supplying hydrogen remains a major hurdle.
source: machinedesign.com
 
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Hahaha dude, I was so hammered when I made that post. I just got home from a bar in Hoboken at the time, made the post and then went to bed, hahahahahhahahahahaa.
I was going to say, "Welcome to the real world!"

Welcome back anyway! Cheers again for [cheers] those fighting to keep the fuel price low! Happy hr on me!
 
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It only makes sense that they team up so there is some sort of standardization in the way hydrogen fuel is delivered. Unfortunately some high quality German makes are going to have to deal with the mass-market companies.

Jap cars are not my favorite and I'm glad to say I have driven my last one. I am looking forward to buying a 50mpg 5-series someday...

[driving2]
 

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By 2010 50 % of BMWs cars are Hydro, has anybody in here ever been to Iceland, holy Hydrogen batman, like 60 % of the cars there are already hyrdo powered
 
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By 2010 50 % of BMWs cars are Hydro, has anybody in here ever been to Iceland, holy Hydrogen batman, like 60 % of the cars there are already hyrdo powered
Wow! The people in Iceland are having fun w/ another kind of ultimate driving machine on ice. Hydro works on another form of hydro - ice! NICE MATCH! [:D]

Saw any Hydrogen fuel station during your last visit to Iceland? How much did those hydro cost per lb? I bet they put anti-freeze in that.
 

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Well Hydrogen is already pretty cold so it doesn't freeze, but the cost is actually about $2.00 per gallon US, but the the cost per unit with Hyrdogen depends on how it is produced, Nuclear costs the least but the problem is storage as we all know and creation, and when I say 60 % of vehicles I mean public transit there are a few cars but not as many as there will be a few years from now, BMW has a huge hydro research facility there too. We were there last summer, cool place.
 

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once i farted really hard into my intake, and i had an instant 500 horsepower increase. i also got 32 mpg that tank, versus my normal 18.
 
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This is blasphemy in all senses. WTF? I love BMW and I don't like Honda, maybe its just to join up to make it easier on each other financially but I hope they end it once Hydrogen is out. In other words, cut the handshake.
 


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