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BMW's Bangle gladly takes the heat, remains committed to design direction

By BRADFORD WERNLE | Automotive News Europe

MUNICH -- For a man who has been reviled on the web as a "diabolical super robot sent from the future by Mercedes-Benz to destroy BMW," Chris Bangle is a pretty calm, cool and collected guy.

Despite the scathing criticisms he's received, BMW's controversial design chief remains resolutely committed to design that looks forward. Retro and Chris Bangle do not go together. He is pleased that some of his critics are beginning to grudgingly approve of some of BMW's futuristic styling.

Interviewed in the design theater at BMW's engineering center in Munich, Bangle has put the new 1 Series on display for the session. His eyes continually stray to the new car, which he is clearly proud of.

Contrary to some industry rumors, Bangle says he has no intention to leave BMW any time soon.

This in spite of the fact that Adrian van Hooydonk of BMW's Design Works in Los Angeles has been named to be head of BMW brand design. The job is a new title, Bangle says.

Bangle says he was doing two jobs -- heading design for BMW brand and for BMW Group, which includes Mini and Rolls-Royce. With Van Hooydonk on board, Bangle will be free to do his job as group design chief.

"What was missing until now was to get all the players on my team that could be responsible for their various marques," he says. "Adrian will come into a role that did not exist before. There was not the role of just the BMW car design chief."

Bangle points out that a car company's designs, particularly BMW, are not the work of any one man. BMW's designs are the result of extensive research into form, a well-thought-out corporate philosophy and a committed team effort.

He knows not everyone likes BMW's designs but he is gratified that some critics seem to be changing their minds.

The New York Times once said of Bangle: "Many devotees view him as an interloping artiste sullying the exalted Bimmer by trying to foist on it his version of hipness."

Asked whether the anti-Bangle websites and relentless criticism bothered him, Bangle says: "You can only say 'all right, I have a good positive attitude,' remember what you're doing and that you did it for a reason. You did it with a lot of people who support you and you support them. They're looking to you for an example, to show some kind of fiber."

Bangle is comfortable taking the heat. He relishes his new job as group design chief overseeing BMW, Rolls-Royce and Mini. "A very important part of what a group design chief should do is work on the people balance. We have a philosophy here at BMW of trying to get the most out of a single designer on a car instead of taking a car and splitting it up among 20 people."

Bangle first became the flashpoint of criticism when the radical 7 Series appeared in 2001. The 7 Series was the first to feature the so-called "Bangle butt."

The BMW desgin chief remembers the atmosphere in which the 7 Series launch was planned.

"As we got closer to the launch communication of the car, it was heading into that famous year 2000 wall [Y2K], which was the peak of retro. You never heard the word emotion coming from designers like you do now. There was a fear of technology, a fear of change. A fear of moving forward is naturally a part of a century change. Don't forget, we were all afraid our toasters were going in league with our refrigerators."

With its iDrive controller system and its sculpted exterior, the 7 Series was "quite honestly a large jump for the company," Bangle says. He denies the forthcoming 7 series facelift is being done in response to criticism.

"The 7 Series is no different than any other product. When the right time comes in its product cycle, it will also get its treatment."


With its newest BMW model, the 1 Series, BMW wants to prove that small cars can be premium cars.

"This car does the job of premium, not the same way as the Mini, but more in the way of a classic BMW. The drive dynamic, the whole package has the look and feel that tells you it's about serious professionalism at work."

Looking at the 1 Series wagon admiringly, he says: "That car's a rocket. That car is just tearing off. With front-engine, rear-drive proportions, that's what you do. When you look at the car from the side for any length of time, you realize you've never seen a car with those proportions."

Bangle has had the backing of the BMW management board throughout his turbulent tenure.

But he prefers talking about the future to talking about the past. At the moment, he's thinking a lot about China, where BMW just opened an assembly plant.

Bangle is intrigued to see what kinds of vehicles Chinese customers will want.

He believes the future of car design is evolving rapidly in the face of new technology, relentless competition, and ever more sophisticated consumers.

"We've gone through three major phases in the 100 odd years of personal motor vehicle that changed the look and feel of cars. We could easily be entering a new fourth phase. But, we have to get this industry focused on how to make cars differently. And, I'm saying this not just so that designers can have new toys to play with. I'm saying this because the demands of our customers are so high and the demands of the marketplace are so intense."
 
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i think Bangle is cool and that the 1 is really nice (anyone know how much it would cost to ship one to the states?)...

on the side note i may meet him in 2 years when im interning in Germany, hopefully, my manager says it'll probably get the internship since by then i would have been working for BMW for 2 years
 
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The new designs are nice but i really dont like the headlights at all. not for the new 5 or the 1 or the 6 and z4. if the headlights in the 5 werent so swept back, it would look much nicer. the bangle butt seems out of place at times and then at other times it blends in. but those headlight need to go.
 

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Bangle says, "Don't forget, we were all afraid our toasters were going in league with our refrigerators."

What pompus nonsense! I wish he'd go back to designing toasters and leave my 3 series alone.

His "promotion" is just corporate spin for his diminished influence. BMW knows it needs some correction and fast, without publicly having to admit their cars have grown butt-ugly. I love the way he frames the debate into going forward vs. moving back. What a skewed way of avoiding the real issue: good looking cars vs. ones with sheet metal from a train wreck.
 
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aNoodle said:
Bangle says, "Don't forget, we were all afraid our toasters were going in league with our refrigerators."

What pompus nonsense! I wish he'd go back to designing toasters and leave my 3 series alone.
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The 7 series by bangle is atrocious..
The 5 series by bangle is lovable
The 6 series by bangle is Meh.. BORING
The Z4 by bangle is lovable and wicked
And the 1 series is crap = /
I couldn't agree more.
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The 5 series is a bad ass looking car (hence the reason I bought one) The front end of that car says one thing to other drivers,"Get the efff out of the way." It is aggressive and modern. Now the 7series I have to agree with everyone on....FUGLY. I love the old style 99, 00 models were on "on target". 1 series, i am not holding my breath, Iread the reviews and seems like it has good techinical value, I hope it looks better in person than on a magazine cover.
 

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No offense tool fan, but every time I see the new 5 I think of a man dressed up as a girl.....those ridiculous drag queen eyebrows....the unnatural nose with those new cutsey points...it looks like Bangle might have gotten M Jackson's plastic surgeon in on the action.
 
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No offense tool fan, but every time I see the new 5 I think of a man dressed up as a girl.....those ridiculous drag queen eyebrows....the unnatural nose with those new cutsey points...it looks like Bangle might have gotten M Jackson's plastic surgeon in on the action.
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At first I didn't like the new 5, but now that I am seeing them in person, the styling is growing on me. It doesn't have the naturally aggressive appearance and stance of the old E39 5-series (man, that was a great car), but it definitely looks nice and somewhat sporty. It's almost as if the target audience for the new 5-series (people who want more luxury than sport) is different than the target audience for the old 5-series (people who want more sport than luxury).
 

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So now Bangle is sporting : "A very important part of what a group design chief should do is work on the people balance. We have a philosophy here at BMW of trying to get the most out of a single designer on a car instead of taking a car and splitting it up among 20 people."

Well at least for the first time we're hearing Bangle speak in terms of teams of people working on different car concepts....which some are singled out for the board's nod....and its a single designer's vision that is important from start to finish.

He credits van Hooydonk for much of the 6. Note how Bangle is dancing to a different tune...he's now uber-talker designer...no longer Mr. I-created-it. He's diminished and everybody knows it.
 
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At first I didn't like the new 5, but now that I am seeing them in person, the styling is growing on me. It doesn't have the naturally aggressive appearance and stance of the old E39 5-series (man, that was a great car), but it definitely looks nice and somewhat sporty. It's almost as if the target audience for the new 5-series (people who want more luxury than sport) is different than the target audience for the old 5-series (people who want more sport than luxury).
Luxurious!!!! Definately, The appearance of the car may be "luxerious" Get behind the wheel Mr. E and take for a spin, It is very sporty, IMO sporty(er) than my 98 528i. They are awsome cars. When you decide to come on over and visit us in Germany....You can run mine on the Autobahn...DEAL????
 


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